Shot down in flames @House party/ Wingman fail.

[HeyPachuco!]

Went to this House party in a total different city, different culture, traditions, accent everything!

Some really Hot girls there, just seemed a little weary as to who we where.

Anyway, I need some TIPS for House Parties/ Club enviroment. Any good recommedations of threads to read? One thing I've learned is that if you're uncomfortable with the group or circle you're in, then it's going to be harder for you to pick up.

My wingman totally didnt help, he got drunk and forgot about helping fellow DJ's in the process. He bought the B-day girl a bottle of champagne and yet, she still gave him the cold shoulder throughout the whole night. It was liek she didn't even notice him.

We booked hotels, yet, NO girls came back and NOBODY got any numbers! absolute waste of time. I couldn't perform to my best because of the ''circle'' I was in.

Except, my friend who knows the b-day girl he was speaking to the B-day girl's cousin - (HB9!!!) who was kinda tired/drunkish. She was STEARING AT ME the whole night (As soon as I came in), I thought there must be something on my face, the way she gleared at me.

Anyway, he tapped her to the side and told her to ''come outside'' probably due to the loud music inside, I go outside, they're both talking, I take a p!ss. Go back in.

Look for some chicks, ALL OCCUPIED, go back outside, he's still speaking to her. Later, they both go inside, I'm back with my so-called wingman, she comes over and TAPS HIM NOW.

So, APPARENTLY, she asks for HIS NUMBER (which I know is a no,no, cos chicks never/rarely call bck). Anyway, after she did this, she looked at me and I looked at her as fi to say "c'mon babe, you know I'm the man here, the better looking one''.

I won't be surprised if she asks who I was and what I do etc etc IF she EVER DOES CALL HIM.

I had to work around the diffculties within the party, because 1) having badly been introduced to the B-day girl and her friends, 2) my circle weren't sh!t, friends of a friend who where so fvcking AFC, it was unbelievable!

So I was kinda a ONE-MAN-ARMY. I had to interact with the guys who where already there who were speaking to these girls. I ended up speaking to city footballer having a good convo actually.

I also blame myself for not groping on a few girls that literally danced allover me in that party. There bodies basically said "GRAB MY WAIST". I put it to FEAR, fear of rejection in a concentrated enviroment.

Tips guys? I thought I had it to a pin-point since I registered here, but obviously not. Alot of self-evaluation is in process.

 

[SandHawk]

Here's a pro-tip: Next time you're at such a party, try having a bit more fun. It shows massively in your attitude and behaviour when you're not having fun and get all pissed off because none of the girls likes your game.

Also, why are you pissed at your buddy for taking the girl? The fact that she looked at you doesn't give you solely ownership of her. If you opened her before he did and told him so, then you would have a valid reason to moan about it. Now it kinda sounds like you just got pissed because he got away with the hottest of the girls.

 

[HeyPachuco!]

Here's a pro-tip: Next time you're at such a party, try having a bit more fun. It shows massively in your attitude and behaviour when you're not having fun and get all pissed off because none of the girls likes your game.

Also, why are you pissed at your buddy for taking the girl? The fact that she looked at you doesn't give you solely ownership of her. If you opened her before he did and told him so, then you would have a valid reason to moan about it. Now it kinda sounds like you just got pissed because he got away with the hottest of the girls.

The thing is, you cant have fun BY YOURSELF. My wingman's friends where AFC certified. And it looked awkward me dancing by myself (even tho I was), I was still dancing, smiling and keeping my preverence.

I'm not pissed at him for getting there before me. I'm not pissed at him atall. I'm just disappointed that he failed me when I asked him to assist me whilst I go talk to one of the girls and he went through the backdoor tail between legs.

Think about it. You're at a HOUSE party. In a different CITY. everybody in the party relitevly knows eachother to some degree. And you haven't been well introduced to the B-day girl and co.

The only thing you can do now is ..GO IN AT IT ALONE. Most of the girls where surrounded by guys who they knew aswell. I got the ball rolling on several groups of girls, my wingman wass behind me all the time, whispering in my ear "when am I going to introduce him"


I was like what!? This is your party, you brang me here bro, your meant to be introducing me.

One of his friends got sick and left outside, the other was outside smoking ten to a dozen. My wingman's sole purprose was to get it on with the B-day girl but he ended up arguing with her because she kept saying she's really busy at her own party ..lol??

It wasn't honourable wingman doings it was EVERY MAN FOR HIMSELF dude.

 

[hansol]

Just change your mindset a little bit. Like was said above, make it a point to "have fun, experience new things". You're not there JUST to bang chicks, you're there to hear some cool stories and see what everyones' deal is.

I was at a party the other week under the exact same circumstances. My wingman was aweful that night; got a little liquor in him and all he wanted to do was slam every chick there with vulgar nonsense. So I just ignored him, found an open seat on a couch next to the hottest chick there, and said "So missy, what's your deal?"

And when that got boring (she turned out to be a psycho), I turned to the guy next to me and said "So man, what's your deal?" Turns out the guy has a '72 Harley, works with rebar, and can shred a guitar like a mad man.

Just change your frame, and make it so that you're there to have a good time, regardless of how many numbers you snag or whom you take home. That way you give off good juju, plus can learn a few cool things about everyone at the party. And once you are in good with a few guys at the party, the chicks see you talking to everyone, the b*tch shields come down.

Enjoy the party for what it is, and the fact that you are out with some fun people instead of at home watching internet porn and ESPN highlights. That in itself is something to be happy about.

 

[Don Israel]

Sounds like you made the best of what was presented to you. Kudos for your efforts at the party despite the whole cultural difference and what not.

I find that going out with wingmen is useful, however we must realize that unexpected joys/dissapointments might arise when you sarge or go to party with wingmen (especially when you don't know them really well).

When i go out i take it as is . If my wingman decides to not put his full energy in gaming, eff it...i'll just rely on myself and do what a man's supposed to do.

 

[Rhoto]

The thing is, you cant have fun BY YOURSELF.

Of course you can. Why do you believe you can't? I don't go out by myself every time, but I've come to enjoy as much as, if not more than rolling with 3-4 of my buddies. Less coordination, more autonomy, and inevitably - less money spent.

You develop more resilience when you roll solo. Plus you're not having to devote time or energy thinking about how your bros are gonna make it - especially if you're hanging out with AFCs. (Which you should fix.)

As has been said umpteen times on this board, a man's value can be easily determined by his options and ability to act on them.

If you're desperate for women, they can tell. If you're enjoying yourself, regardless of women, or lack there-of, they pick up on that too.


"What you feel, she feels."


When you goto a party, focus on enjoying yourself and making it worthwhile. Women will follow, I promise.

 

[12AJ12]

So I was kinda a ONE-MAN-ARMY.

Welcome to my life bro. Running solo has never stopped me. Try making your PUA ways a lifestyle that comes naturally instead of an objective that should be forced at critical situations. Your setting yourself up for failure. Your at a party to party. Girls follow the fun... your fun shouldn't follow all the girls around hoping that they'll give you a permission to have a good time.

 

[HeyPachuco!]

Hey,

Cheers Sandhawk, Hansol, Rhoto, Don Israel and 12AJ12 for your replies.

Coming to think about it, you're right. I wasnt ENJOYING MYSELF. I was too worried about my wingman pulling MORE than me and wondering what HE was doing, not what I was doing.

All in all, I wasn't 100% satisfied with MYSELF that night either. I was unprepared (clothing, persona, moneywise) and the hotel organising was looking grim. So I think its fair to say that, that had some play on why things went the way it did.

The AFC friends had the audacity to leave 2hours early before it ended (because it looked good), and then in the morning, say "I'm p!ssed I didn't even get a number .." LOL

Anyway, for future reference in any circumstances I will definetly ENJOY MYSELF whether I nail some chick/s is 2nd.

Note: Before we left the city, we went to the Town Centre, where all the shopping arcades where. I spoke to 2 girls who where eyeing me up so bad, I just had to speak to them. They werent very goodlooking however, probably like 4's/5's but the bodies where 100%.

She took my number down, b/c I wasn't really bothered with getting theres. She actually happend to text me back that same night I got back to my city. So she must be really interested - I guess something good can sometimes come out of a situation I was in.

Another thing, I rekon there was something about why that girl looked at me after she took down my Buddies number - Why didn't she give him her's and why did she stear at me after asif to say " I JUST DID THAT TO MAKE YOU JEALOUS B/C YOU DIDNT COME AND TALK TO ME FIRST .." or isit me just over thinking ..?

 

[hansol]

It's all good man, we all have off-nights when the ju-ju just isn't there. You'll get 'em next time.

 

[SandHawk]

I've a full week where I AFC'd the crap out the entire world. I missed a few shots.

Also, tonight I had to run bar(I work as a volunteer barkeeper in a student place) and unexpectedly a lot of people showed up. Instead on focusing on scoring with the girls, I focused on having loads of fun with my fellow barkeeper, pouring good beers and serving everyone with their requirement of alcoholic beverages, and ended up with 2 phone numbers and a few chicks eying me. And all because I was having a fun time behind the bar, and not focused on scoring.

And that's how you should game: You go out to have fun and by gaming, you increase your level of fun and score numbers. I have nights where *ALL* my openers fail, or I can't keep a convo running to save my life. If that happens, I just bounce to the dance floor and dance till my feet scream from the pain. By the time I end up in bed, I might be horny and didn't score, but I sure did have a good time. Girls are an addition to life, not the reason to live.