"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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she wont get off!

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this is the first time i've ever encountered this problem but its really frustrating me. Me and my current girlfriend have just begun getting sexual in our relationship and over the past few weeks i've been fingering her and whatknot.

I know im not bad at it because i've done it before a bunch and always get good feedback...but this girl WILL NOT GET OFF. After about 10 or 15 minutes my arm/fingers get tired and i cant go on anymore. I do everything possible to her and nothing

she is definately enjoying it, its just that nothing comes of it. And its really making me nervous because if i cant even get her off by fingereing how the hell am i supposed to give her an orgasm with sex?

I can go pretty well, but im not going to make a complete fool of myself


any feedback on technique, or explainations would be greatly appreciated
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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your not doing it right.

don't rely on porn to teach you eather, they are ment to get guys aroused not women, there fore they don't do the things on there women like.....

do a serch and you'll find some good answers... I personaly have had good luck with the ****. If you eat it the right way, she will be tosing from one side of the bed to the other.
 

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i dont understand though, this isnt the first girl i've fingered and every one of the others have reached their orgasm

and i dont necessarilly rely on porn, ive looked up alot of techniques in the past and nothing seems to work.

and she was a bit unkept at the moment to go down on her haha
 
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some gurls can't have orgasams (or at least not easely). some women wont alow them selfts to come. for those type of gurls it's like holding in when you need to take a leak (or at least that's what i heard one say.) they think they are gona piss them selfs.... some of those gurls even have massive orgasams (when they do come) and squirt (i don't know much about this, it never happened to me.)


concentrate on the front wall of the vergina and the ****. and try different things. try rubbing the front wall, tapping ("come here" with your fingers).

as for the ****. sometimes rubbing the general area will do, haw ever, other times you need to go from underneath that skin that covers it (serch for it;) ) Just be carefull, it can be really sencative.

also "FORPLAY" - don't ever forget it, You have to make her beg for it. It's just the way you play with her (body language, words, physical stimulation) that gets her going, and makes her crazy to the point that she just jumps at you and starts riding.....


oh ya, and some gurls say that the only way they can have an orgasam is through anal (I don't suggest you ever ask her about this, you just might find your self single again)
 

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hahaha thanks

and yeah i definately have foreplay down, she was jamming my hand down there

im just a bit nervous about trying it again because i dont want to feel like an ******* who cant even get her off

i was doin a bunch of stuff lke rubbing around the **** and wahtknot and occasionally doing the come here thing but after 10 or so minutes your arm gets tired and you cant realy do much

we were both kindof drunk too so i dont know if that contributes to it

either way...it really blows haha...its so frustrating
and when it comes down to sex im gonna be screwed...both literally and metiphoricly
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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does anyone know anything else that could help me out?
 

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we were both kindof drunk too so i dont know if that contributes to it
Well if you were both kind of drunk then that could explain it. I’ve heard of people who just can’t reach orgasm when there drunk. I don’t drink and never have run into the problem but it does make sense when you think all the effects alcohol does to your brain.
Oh and take the negatives thoughts out of you man, its going to show when your in the act and believe me its going to turn her off faster.
Some gurls can't have orgasams (or at least not easely)
Yep I’ve seen that, so in the end if you think your doing it right don’t blame it on yourself, it’s most likely her.
 

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think of someone doing the 'come here' sign with their index finger.

Thats the move you want to be doing when your fingering a girl, i've found that works best. My finger gets pretty tired, you might have to switch hands.

Its just a pregame thing anways, do it for a while then switch to the real tool.
 

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Originally posted by Rec_rejection_phobic
some gurls can't have orgasams (or at least not easely). some women wont alow them selfts to come. for those type of gurls it's like holding in when you need to take a leak (or at least that's what i heard one say.) they think they are gona piss them selfs.... some of those gurls even have massive orgasams (when they do come) and squirt (i don't know much about this, it never happened to me.)


phobic is right, since my girlfriend is just like that. when i asked her why she wouldn't cùm, she told me exactly what he's been told. anyway, the few times i managed to get her off, she squirted a lot and greatly enjoyed it
 

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you have to tease her more

spend about an hour using foreplay to make her want it real bad

eg. kiss her body alot lightly, when you get to her breasts, kiss real close to the nipple but tease her, don't suck on the nipple

you get the point, do the same down there with her
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Have you ever tried when she wasn't drunk? Because it's a lot harder to get them off when they are drunk.
 

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Yeah, if you've only done it while under the influence of alcohol, that could be the problem.

Like someone said previously, every girl is different. Not every theory will apply to every girl.

Speaking from experience, many girls cannot orgasm while drinking. Hell, some girls cant orgasm. Maybe she hasn't mentally got over that hurdle yet.

Nevertheless, don't let this dent your confidence. When you start doubting your own ability, you won't perform. Keep trying, and results will come.

- Cam.
 
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