She cracks a joke... IOI or IOD?

[tsmith2334]

I know this is small potatoes, but hey, where here to help eachother, so I figure I'd ask.

I was talking to a hb7.5 about setting up a dinner date for the following evening. I called her earlier and she didn't pick up (she does this alot, not just with me) so I mentioned it in passing and then told her if I was available I'd call her the following day and we'd set something up (I was pretty assertive here, basically assumptively setting up a date and inviting her along for the ride).

"Alright" she says. Then, "I might not pick up... haha joke".

Here's where I'm confused. Is she telling me to not get my hopes up about getting in touch with her and turning it into a joke, or is she confirming she's interested by suggesting she wouldn't ignore me. I'm thinking the latter, but I'm confused and want to make sure I'm reading this right.

Let me know if my instintcs are correct.

 

[Gangster Of Love]

She is sucking you into her reality. You see, to her it is "cute" that she never picks up her phone. So if/when you call and she doesn't pick up, to her it will be no bid deal, because that is just what she does.

Why didn't you ask her, "are you gonna pick up your phone?".

Btw, why are you setting up "dinner dates?"; very high flake possibility with this one. Remember, if she's interested, she'll pick up or will call back very soon after. If she's interested, she will agree to go with you anywhere, even if it doesn't include a free dinner.

Summary: she is indifferent. If she has nothing better to do, and if she happens to be in the mood to pick up her phone or call back, she will go to dinner with you.

 

[tsmith2334]

She is sucking you into her reality. You see, to her it is "cute" that she never picks up her phone. So if/when you call and she doesn't pick up, to her it will be no bid deal, because that is just what she does.

Why didn't you ask her, "are you gonna pick up your phone?".

Btw, why are you setting up "dinner dates?"; very high flake possibility with this one. Remember, if she's interested, she'll pick up or will call back very soon after. If she's interested, she will agree to go with you anywhere, even if it doesn't include a free dinner.

Summary: she is indifferent. If she has nothing better to do, and if she happens to be in the mood to pick up her phone or call back, she will go to dinner with you.

I didn't ask her if she was going to pick up her phone because I thought it would be beating a dead horse. I also thought that would sound kind of desperate and clingy.

Other then that, you're advice seems pretty spot on. I know I didn't go into much detail, but you seemed to hit the nail on the head, regardless. I'm hoping she'll be in the mood to go out (AFC-ish I know) because if she accepts my inivation, I think I can show her a good time and ignite some IOIs (she's shown them in the past).

Still though, her joke had me puzzled and second guessing myself. I want to think it's a good thing... I mean, why would she joke about not picking up her phone if she really planned on snubbing me? That, or she really doesn't care and the joke was a sign of indifference, I guess we'll find out.

 

[DJDamage]

You snooze you lose.

If this girl doesn't pick up the phone then make sure you have some backup plans and forget about calling her until she decides to call you back and make it up to you.

Anything less then that is pathetic in my book. A Man shouldn't have to put up with a woman's low interest. I am reminded of what Doc Love used to say and it may be a bit Corny but just think about it: If Brad Pitt would have called her, do you think she would have responded to him like she did you??!! or would she be waiting by the phone 24/7 and screen calls to make sure she won't miss his call?!

I think you get my point.

 

[Interceptor]

why would she joke about not picking up her phone if she really planned on snubbing me?

Probably because you're very low on her list of priorities. Ask he if she'd do this to Brad Pitt. Understand now?

And she likes the game.

You better be ready to walk away at the snap of your fingers.

 

[tsmith2334]

Probably because you're very low on her list of priorities. Ask he if she'd do this to Brad Pitt. Understand now?

And she likes the game.

You better be ready to walk away at the snap of your fingers.

I am. I headed back to school next week, I'm just hoping to get some practice in and maybe a kiss close.

I probably am low on the priority list, but atleast she's entertaining the thought (wow that was very AFC).

Anyway, I just figured, if she intends to ignore my next call, would she really joke about it? Wouldn't that kind of blow up her spot? In the past when I've been flaked on, I was always given some fake reassurance before ultimately being ignored.

This seems like the opposite, so I'm not sure how to take it.

 

[Interceptor]

tsmith, take it as she does not respect you.

(and you're still 'trying to 'game ' this female, sigh...)
hows the cold hard truth, young man?

Females who don't give a sh*t about your feelings believe they have the right to act however they please to males whom they feel unworthy of them and disrespect.

 

[Interceptor]

I am. I headed back to school next week, I'm just hoping to get some practice in and maybe a kiss close.

I probably am low on the priority list, but atleast she's entertaining the thought (wow that was very AFC).

Anyway, I just figured, if she intends to ignore my next call, would she really joke about it? Wouldn't that kind of blow up her spot? In the past when I've been flaked on, I was always given some fake reassurance before ultimately being ignored.

This seems like the opposite, so I'm not sure how to take it.

tsmith,

sounds good, This is what you should be concentrating on, while at the same time maintajning and developing social skills, and learning attraction and seduction dynamics. You must have a lot on your plate to succeed. This is the way it has to be. You must be too busy to "WORRY" about females.

Understood?


you need to develop a Mission for your Life.

You need to write out specific goals you wish to achieve, and how you will accomplish them..Do not settle for disrespect form some low class female.

Develop yourself fully into a self respecting, dignified, and mature Masculine Man.

 

[The Deacon]

Probably because you're very low on her list of priorities. Ask he if she'd do this to Brad Pitt. Understand now?

Interceptor's right for the most part. Be aware, though, that some chicks like playing hard to get. She could be one of those chicks who read that book The Rules and takes it far too seriously. Keep gaming her, and if she doesn't give you anything, next her.

 

[Interceptor]

Interceptor's right for the most part. Be aware, though, that some chicks like playing hard to get. She could be one of those chicks who read that book The Rules and takes it far too seriously. Keep gaming her, and if she doesn't give you anything, next her.

Agreed.
The gaming aspect should be done from a non outcome dependent perspective though. Just look at it as Practice.
Hard to Get females MUST be Qualified. That means, at some point you MUST know where you stand with her, so that YOU know if you should be USING your MOST VALUEABLE RESOURCE....YOUR TIME on Her.

Remember, Men whom respect themselves do not waste their precious resources on women whom don't reciprocate.


Don't WASTE time...........you CANNOT 'make more" when it's gone.

 

[tsmith2334]

Interceptor's right for the most part. Be aware, though, that some chicks like playing hard to get. She could be one of those chicks who read that book The Rules and takes it far too seriously. Keep gaming her, and if she doesn't give you anything, next her.

Interceptor speaks the truth but I think you do as well.

I've noticed that she likes the chase and does play hard to get. When we exchanged numbers, she said to call her. I told her to feel free about calling me too, and she basically said that she wanted me to be the one to iniate phone calls. As you can see, she's kind of immature. And probably into playing games.

 

[Interceptor]

tsmith,

USE this as experience for the future.

Do not look at this as negative, change your persepective and focus on how YOU can GAIN from this experience. USE it to BUILD your SELF ESTEEM.
Any exeperience can be looked on as negative or Positive. The choice is up to you.

Again, use this opportunity to LEARN and GROW, and IMPROVE.

 

[tsmith2334]

tsmith,

USE this as experience for the future.

Do not look at this as negative, change your persepective and focus on how YOU can GAIN from this experience. USE it to BUILD your SELF ESTEEM.
Any exeperience can be looked on as negative or Positive. The choice is up to you.

Again, use this opportunity to LEARN and GROW, and IMPROVE.

I'm not even looking at it as a negative experience quite frankly. We're casual friends. We've gone on a sporadic couple dates before, I enjoy her company. She also has shown a decent amount of interest in the past. However, she can be hard to get a hold of and immature though (as stated earlier). If a relationship were to happen, I'd be cool, she brings a lot to the table that I like.

As for right now, I'm just trying to set up a small date in the near future and she gave me a signal I found difficult to read. That's where you guys come in.

 

[Poonani Maker]

When a woman, doesn't, respect me (and this hasn't happened in a while), I'll just keep or kick in the upbeat high n' mighty business thought process of "How do you do?" Do I know you? We are strictly business now. See you later. Maybe I will. Maybe I won't. It doesn't matter if I ever see you again, but I know that right now, I'm leaving you because I've gotta go somewhere. I'll think of something way more important to goto and do, if she's not cooperating with me in a professional/respectful manner. I don't have time for this. I've been through a lot more than she has, unless she's a navy seal or somethin.

 

[tsmith2334]

I don't know where all this disrespect talk is coming from. She made a joke that I can't really decipher. I make fun of her all the time, it's mutual. I've been DISREPECTED by a woman before, this is nothing.

I'm just trying to understand if there's anything behind her joke.

 

[Interceptor]

tsmith,
when women don't care about a man's feelings they feel free to say anything that's on their minds. Including things like they won't pick up their phone if YOU call.
Most 'jokes' have roots in SERIOUSNESS.

Take it any way you want,

Good luck with it.

 

[tsmith2334]

tsmith,
when women don't care about a man's feelings they feel free to say anything that's on their minds. Including things like they won't pick up their phone if YOU call.
Most 'jokes' have roots in SERIOUSNESS.

Take it any way you want,

Good luck with it.

That's the kind of reply I've been looking for.

Like I said, I'm not sure how to take it, because joking about doing something and then contradicting yourself and doing it is like shooting yourself in the foot. I figured if she had no intentions of picking up my call, she'd be unresponsive or fake interest. I thought maybe cracking a joke and attempting to be cute on the other hand, might have been a good thing. I'm trying not to be cynical.

I wasn't sure. You're probably right. Thanks by the way, I respect your opinion.

 

[Outsider]

I know this is small potatoes, but hey, where here to help eachother, so I figure I'd ask.

I was talking to a hb7.5 about setting up a dinner date for the following evening. I called her earlier and she didn't pick up (she does this alot, not just with me) so I mentioned it in passing and then told her if I was available I'd call her the following day and we'd set something up (I was pretty assertive here, basically assumptively setting up a date and inviting her along for the ride).

"Alright" she says. Then, "I might not pick up... haha joke".

Here's where I'm confused. Is she telling me to not get my hopes up about getting in touch with her and turning it into a joke, or is she confirming she's interested by suggesting she wouldn't ignore me. I'm thinking the latter, but I'm confused and want to make sure I'm reading this right.

Let me know if my instintcs are correct.

Chill out.

 

[tsmith2334]

Chill out.

Haha true. Like I said, I know it's small potatoes, I was just wondering.

Anyway, today is the next day and I'm not gonna call her. Not because of her joke, I just wasn't digging the vibe when we were talking that much. So I'm gonna wait it out a couple days and do my own thing. Since her interest is most likely low, I'm not gonna be pushy or display high IL myself. I might call her in a few days, if anything. Just not today like I told her I might do.

Is this a smart move?