"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

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-> Serious Q about 2nd date ideas!!

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Hi playas,

I need to know logistically how to prepare for a 2nd date. I was going to text her something like:

"Are you free after 6pm on Thursday? let's cook dinner and watch a movie together if you are free."

I need some ideas how to bounce her back to my place and feedback.
 

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The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Text forwarded to her 2h 45m ago. No response since then......Oh well, it's over again. NEXT
 

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mustfirstregister said:
Text forwarded to her 2h 45m ago. No response since then......Oh well, it's over again. NEXT

OH NO!!!! TWO HOURS AND FORTY-FIVE MINUTES!!!!
 

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mustfirstregister said:
Text forwarded to her 2h 45m ago. No response since then......Oh well, it's over again. NEXT
A gajillion things could have happened bro.
 

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She responded just now!!! lol....."I have a friends house warming party to go this thrusday. hopefully your team will win next game"

That sounds like she is not interested to have dinner and movie with me....OK no problem I will try not to become needy. I will ask her again next week.

If there is anything I could do, do let me know. Thanks!
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Well, you are a little to impatient for your own good. Too bad I didn't read your post before you texted that. Now onto giving you advice for the next time you need to make a move.

A few questions.
If it is someone you know already, have you kissed or gotten physical with her? If not, you got too eager and needy by inviting her to your place, which btw, you should do it in person or by phone, NEVER BY TEXT.

mustfirstregister said:
"Are you free after 6pm on Thursday? let's cook dinner and watch a movie together if you are free.".
You come across as too aproval seeking by asking her if she's free, and you did it TWICE!!!

Let me bottom line the whole thing. You meet girl, spend time with her, and if everything is going well, you invite her to your place. You can also do it for another day. If things went well, you kiss her, for that will give you a big advantage when inviting her to get together with you, specially alone at your place.

"You and I need to get together soon. Let's meet up Thursday and cook dinner together"



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I need some ideas how to bounce her back to my place and feedback.
 

mustfirstregister

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Gansta of Love,
No kiss or hand holding. I only put my arm around her and walked as a couple.
The reason why I picked dinner and movie at my place it is because I dont know other ways to do a 2nd date.
Even if I know another way for a 2nd date. I would have logistics difficulties to bounce her back to my place.
What do you guys do? Could someone provide me examples. Thanks!
 

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Gangster Of Love said:
Well, you are a little to impatient for your own good. Too bad I didn't read your post before you texted that. Now onto giving you advice for the next time you need to make a move.

A few questions.
If it is someone you know already, have you kissed or gotten physical with her? If not, you got too eager and needy by inviting her to your place, which btw, you should do it in person or by phone, NEVER BY TEXT.
I'm glad you said that, man. I was thinking to myself "Inviting a chick to your place on Date#2 sounds a bit aggressive."

But sometimes I find myself not being aggressive enough, so I didn't want to discourage this dude.


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Gansta of Love,
No kiss or hand holding. I only put my arm around her and walked as a couple.
The reason why I picked dinner and movie at my place it is because I dont know other ways to do a 2nd date.
Even if I know another way for a 2nd date. I would have logistics difficulties to bounce her back to my place.
What do you guys do? Could someone provide me examples. Thanks!

What's so hard about arranging a 2nd date? You got the first one. Take what you did on the first date....and THEN do something similar.

What would I do on Date#2?

Frankly, I don't see a need to FORCE the date to end up back at my house. I mean, if things go well when we're at the bar/restaurant/bowling, then sure I can find a way to invite her over. I damn sure wouldn't do it via text, unless Date#1 REALLY convinced me that she was begging for my c**k.

So, my assessment of what you did is - Why invite a girl to your house after only 1 date where there was VERY little physical interaction? Why not invite her to a bar or something fun, charm her IN PERSON, and then convince her to drive to your place?
 

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Thanks guys!

What should I do now? Maybe she already knows I wanna do her. Now she will have a different view on me. Should I next her? What is the next move?
 

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Meet up with her and make sure you make a physical move on her. Off course she knows you want to do her. Who cares about what she or any other woman thinks of you.

You can't just show up to T-ball then expect your second game to be in the world series. First meet up, kiss/get physical, and then worry about getting her to your place.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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