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Screwed up another fvckin phone call again for date!!

ScrewIt

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ok ok i think i just f*cked up a phone call...

here's how it went:

hey can i speak to HB8
hb8: this is HB8 speaking
nah you're not HB8, she had a much sexier voice than that.
hb8: its cuz im eating
eating huh? eating dinner?
hb8: eating
hb8: you're voice is different
different? it's always been the same (my voice WAS NOT stuttering this time, and it was clear loud and sharp, but it was a little faster than normal)
you wanna go out thursday and eat ?(i was gonna say lets get together thursday and eat, but ****in forgot)
hb8: eat? eat where?
eat at a restaurant.
hb8: my mom (something something..couldnt hear what she said)
i'll call you back later.

ok, bye.

IM SURE SHE WAS LYING AND MADE THAT EXCUSE....it was right after i asked her to go out and eat.
i was a little nervous and couldnt say the right words to mess with her head, and just lost track.
what do you guys make of this??

if she calls back, im planning to set the time & place to pick her up..most likely the store she works at.
OR
if she doesnt call back...should i persist? and call her back the next day...or next her?

If she were to decline my offer, or make up an excuse that she couldnt come....i was planning to say "well, that's too bad, i was gonna show you a good time." "i guess i'll just have to show someone else a good time."

some background...she's a classmate from one of my classes this term, last week was the last week of class. so since finals, everything's over, i'd figure i'd give her a call.

f*ckin always screwin up on the phone call. happened to another HB last time, she gave me the busy crap, so i just nexted her even tho i said i'd call her back another time. but i cant help but to be a little nervous on hte phone.
that HB8 i kinoed and crack c&f stuff @ herevery now and then when i'd see her in class... but hte last few classes i havent
 
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You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Dude dont blame her excuses on your supposed "screwing up" on the phone.

What you said sounded ok man, if she was really interested in chillin with you it wouldnt matter if you said "hey wanna eat burgers" or "Would you like to accompany me to dinner on thursday?"


The ball is in her court now, if she doesnt call you back then forget it and move on.

If she does call back, then just ask her if she wants to go out to dinner or whatever.

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well, that's too bad, i was gonna show you a good time." "i guess i'll just have to show someone else a good time."
Dont say that, thats gayage. If she declines your offer just say "Alright then, have a good day. Bye"
 

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IM SURE SHE WAS LYING AND MADE THAT EXCUSE

Yes, you also insulted her. Be careful that the ****y/funny doesn't sound so stilted that she feels a negitive impression from it, and ultimatelly associates you with negitism.

Diffrent girls respond diffrently to ****y/funny. The other poster thought you did ok, I would agree if this was with another girl, but she didn't sound amused by that.
 

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well this thought just came to mind....maybe this is one of her tests...to see how anxious i'd be to call her back or something.
it's 10pm now, most likely she wont call back tonight. so maybe tomorrow or thurs or never.

you the kind of interaction we had before classes ended gave me the thought she had interest in me.

Julian, if she doesnt call me back are you sure i hsould move on?
there are times where a girl may have high IL, but may not accept first offers just so they dont appear like they have no one else chasing them...or needy.....OR MAYBE they expect us to chase them ,do u believe so?

such as the HB i nexted a few months back, maybe i shouldnt have nexted her, but she didnt do a counter-offer, so i figured she wasnt interested.

truth is, im sick of these sh*t mind games & excuses. If girls were logical like guys, we'd get straightforward answers.
 

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Originally posted by ScrewIt
well this thought just came to mind....maybe this is one of her tests...to see how anxious i'd be to call her back or something.
it's 10pm now, most likely she wont call back tonight. so maybe tomorrow or thurs or never.
Screwit, trust me, you insulted this girl. If you posted the conversation exactly like both you and her both said and heard she changed the subject immediatelly to "I'm eating," right after you gave her the line about the sexy voice. She also told you that "she would call you back" meaning that "she does not want you calling her until she calls you again."

Look, if she was truly interested in anything you had to say she would not have changed the subject and told you not to call her back. She would have waited to see what you had wanted and would have gone with you.

The only thing you can do know is wonder if she will call you back, but I doubt it. Learn from your mistakes...
 

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rgeere, reread my post if you see my edits.

i mistyped that part, it's suppose to say "it's cuz im eating" in response to me asking about her sexy voice.

I know girls normally wont call you back when they say they'll call you back, unless if that girl is your friend. but maybe she does have interest in me?

If she actually does call back and say she cant make it, i'll just say "its cool" then maybe cont on with some fluff talk...

OK fvck it, the next time i call her for a date will be the last time (that's if she doesnt call back), if she declines the next offer i'll just next her
 
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rgeere, reread my post if you see my edits.i mistyped that part, it's suppose to say "it's cuz im eating" in response to me asking about her sexy voice.

That's better, she doesn't sound quite so offended with that emphasis. I still think you could have insulted her, don't rule that out as a possibility it could explain why girls have been giving excuses.


I know girls normally wont call you back when they say they'll call you back, unless if that girl is your friend. but maybe she does have interest in me?


She could have also had said "Call me back in 15 minutes when I'm done eating," rather she chose the indirect approach to keep you from calling her again.


maybe i'll throw in the line "as friends" to not give her the wrong idea...and if we do go out and eat it will be as friends, and it will give me the opportunity to pull more kino/C&f/teasing to get her wet


Well, if I was in your shoes I would steer clear of the word "date" or "out" and just ask her if she wants to go somewhere with you and also instead of emphasizing "as friends."

Don't even infer that it is a date, let her assume that this is what it is and do all the kino/cf in the meantime.
 

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ok

OK rgeere, thx for your response, i know what im gonna do.

if she doesnt call back...then the next time i call her up will be the last (if she declines).

just a formal get together, as friends/ or on a date, thats up for her what to make of it.
 
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If you told a girl who you were interested in that you'll call her back - would you call her back?? I take it you will!

Do not call her - if she is interested then let her keep her word!!
A girl doesn't hang up on a guy she likes!

Don't blame yourself if she doesn't call - a few words exchanged over 30 seconds is not going to destroy interest level!

I assume she has your number.
 

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puerto rican lover, yea she has my #

Originally posted by Ebach
Go to a restaurant? Jeez, that's pathetic...
i did have a restaurant in mind, but there are tons in chinatown, telling her the name would be useless, plus i dont even remember the restuarant name. it probably wouldnt have made a difference if i had been more specific with her, like vietnamese rest, korean, malaysian, chinese...etc.
Plus it's also great that they dont know, cuz a surprise is what theyre looking for.

pathetic? what would you have said?

if a girl has high IL enough, she'll agree to any date.
 

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The line about her voice was mad cheesy, but if she liked you she would have given you a more positive response. She blew you off completely, unless she actually calls you back and accepts the date. DON'T call her again. Why come back for another beating?
 

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Your analyzing this waaaaaaaaaaay too much, make it simple. The fact is, this girl doesn't have any romantic interest in you and that's that. Don't analyze and say, "Oh shiat I said this wrong" that's why she said no. That's fukin' bullshyt. When a girl is jockin' you, you can say whatever the fuvk you want and she'll still be hanging from your nutz.

Think about it this way. If HB8 was more interested in you, than you were in her and she sounded nervous on the phone, would you suddenly not be interested in her? I doubt it.



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