"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

Read more...

Robert Greene on How to End Things

bigneil

Banned
Joined
Oct 20, 2006
Messages
8,265
Reaction score
2,644
Location
Texas
In The 33 Strategies of War, there are several chapters that pertain to relationships. One of the most important is Strategy 22: Know How to End Things - The Exit Strategy.

Here are some snippets:

1. You are judged in this world by how well you bring things to an end.
2. The worst way to end anything – a war, a conflict, a relationship – is slowly and painfully.
3. Short-term defeat is better than long-term disaster.
4. Wisdom is knowing when to end.
5. "To go too far is as bad as to fall short.” –Confucius
6. Understand: in any venture, your tendency to think in terms of winning or losing, success or failure, is dangerous. Your mind comes to a stop, instead of looking ahead. Emotions dominate the moment: a smug elation in winning, dejection and bitterness in losing. What you need is a more fluid and strategic outlook… nothing ever really ends; how you finish something will influence and even determine what you do next.
7. Look at your opponents and decide whether you might do better to be generous to them at the end, taking a step back and transforming them into allies, playing on the emotions of the moment. Keeping your eyes on the aftermath of any encounter, you will think more of the feeling you leave people with – a feeling that might translate into a desire to see more of you.
8. By understanding that any victory or defeat is temporary, and that what matters is what you do with them, you will find it easier to keep yourself balanced during the thousands of battles that life entails. The only real ending is death. Everything else is a transition.
9. Imagine everything you do has a moment of perfection and fruition. Your goal is to end your project there, at such a peak. Greed and delusions of grandeur will make you go too far. Overstaying your welcome, boring people … is the deepest failing: you should leave them wanting more of you, not less. You can accomplish this by bringing the conversation or encounter to an end a moment before the other side expects it.
10. Since defeat is inevitable you must master the art of losing well. See it as a temporary setback, something to wake you up and teach you a lesson. You must see any defeat as a way to demonstrate something positive about yourself and your character to other people.
11. Planting the seeds of future victory in present defeat is strategic brilliance of the highest order.


- Robert Greene

Many of us have gotten that "bad feeling" about a relationship and I think that is when we have already gone too far. We should have ended things before that point. Also in bold face I underscore a bad tendency many of us on the forum have to "snap to" an extreme of judging whether a relationship was won or lost, or being over forever, and to end things on a sour note.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

Read more...

Burroughs

Master Don Juan
Joined
Feb 28, 2011
Messages
2,171
Reaction score
99
bigneil said:
In The 33 Strategies of War, there are several chapters that pertain to relationships. One of the most important is Strategy 22: Know How to End Things - The Exit Strategy.


Many of us have gotten that "bad feeling" about a relationship and I think that is when we have already gone too far. We should have ended things before that point. Also in bold face I underscore a bad tendency many of us on the forum jave to "snap to" an extreme of a relationship having won or lost, or being over forever, and to end things on a sour note.

100% agree

excellent and very truthful observations

always be alert to signs and signals to run for the hills and NEVER overstay your welcome...abort early and don't regret...bpd bishes are multiplying by the dozen...don't be a victim.
 

cablecow15

Master Don Juan
Joined
Oct 17, 2005
Messages
651
Reaction score
13
Age
36
Location
Tennessee
Very true , and wise words , as soon as we swap our minds to a wining or losing mentality , we affect our actions and decisions from that point on , staying steady and not assuming victory or loss is the best way to keep a clear rational head
 
Top