Red flags? Girl has guys as friends and as roommates

[tryst type]

Met this chick who's an easy h9 she has that sexy nerdy look and you can tell gets hit on often.

We hung out the other day and she mentioned how 98% of her friends are guys and the reason is she's too saracastic for girls and they don't get her personality.

Her current roommates are two guys, one of which she says has been in love with her since high school and she's convinced is still a virgin.

She struck me as VERY shy and nervous around me, the kind that appear not interested/standoffish. She became little comfortable and her supposed sarcasm came out. How true it is that's why she prefers male friends I don't know.

Looking for some input because besides that she has long term potential and wants to hang out more. Just don't want to set myself up for any non-sense "alpha male" projection drama from her guy friends.

 

[Virtus]

Met this chick who's an easy h9 she has that sexy nerdy look and you can tell gets hit on often.

We hung out the other day and she mentioned how 98% of her friends are guys and the reason is she's too saracastic for girls and they don't get her personality.

Her current roommates are two guys, one of which she says has been in love with her since high school and she's convinced is still a virgin.

She struck me as VERY shy and nervous around me, the kind that appear not interested/standoffish. She became little comfortable and her supposed sarcasm came out. How true it is that's why she prefers male friends I don't know.

Looking for some input because besides that she has long term potential and wants to hang out more. Just don't want to set myself up for any non-sense "alpha male" projection drama from her guy friends.

There are many women like this. I don't consider it abnormal, but not something I would view as a positive either. I tend to avoid girls with too many close male friends.

My opinion is to continue "hanging out" with her and just keep your frame of mind that she's just for fun and not to expect anything serious out of her. Don't act like her gay male friend, don't act like a white-knight, and try to avoid getting involved in become her "advice guy" when she's having problems with some other guy she's sleeping around with.

Just be the cool, confident, somewhat distant guy. Hang out with her, try to make some moves, but never appear like you're in love with her or you need her, otherwise you're pretty much dead.

 

[backbreaker]

We hung out the other day and she mentioned how 98% of her friends are guys and the reason is she's too saracastic for girls and they don't get her personality.

lol. probably the biggest red flag there is, more so than how many men a woman has slept iwth is how many female friends a woman has.

the lower the number of female friends, the higher the likelyhood that the woman has some of the ****test morality issues you can find. women don't want to be her friend becuase she's burned all her bridges and women are tried of dealing with her.

her telling you that is just her hamster going in reverse to try to explain to herself why women don't like being around her

if you believe this lol @ you

Her current roommates are two guys, one of which she says has been in love with her since high school and she's convinced is still a virgin.

so she's basically using her roomate's attraction to her to get favorable living conditions? there is no difference between this girl and a woman who sleeps with a guy to have a place to stay the only difference is one actually put the **** in and one didn't. i assure you if she had to she would.



this girl is a standard run of the mill low morality girl there is nothing unique or interesting about her other than the fact that i assume she's not bad looking.

i'm sick and tired of guys treating women like they are special and believing everything that comes out of their mouth because they are cute. women really aren't all that hard to figure out if you stop thinking with your ****.

 

[tryst type]

My first time coming across a woman whose friends are mostly guys. Found it odd.

She's very shy as I mentioned. Maybe the real reason her friends are mostly guys is for ego boosting? Aren't the shy girls the ones who tend to sleep around more? Think I read that here once. Can't remember

 

[zekko]

Maybe the real reason her friends are mostly guys is for ego boosting?

Ego boosting and attention. But as BB noted, the lack of female friends is a big red flag. Males will overlook her bad behavior (or as she says, "too sarcastic") because she is hot. Women have no such obigation. There is most likely a good reason they won't have anything to do with her. She probably has some major personality flaws.

 

[FairShake]

Dude...yes.

Alot of dudes just want to bang. Some guys will hang out with a girl for years, keeping her in their quill until it happens.

If she can't get along with her own gender she has some deeper issues. I think zekko nailed it, clearly girls see through her sh!t and guys won't.

Pump and dump.

That said, there are girls who claim to have only guy friends to try to appear cool to other guys. The reality, I've found, can be different.

 

[tryst type]

Ok here are two huge indicators I got that makes me want to next her

She texts to see how I've been, small talk leads to me saying I'm planning on checking out a particular movie during the week without inviting her. She says she'd love to see it with me but has a big test coming up she's been studying for. Asks if she could get back to me next day in the afternoon, well the day comes and goes and no word from her.

I don't even bother trying to follow up. Then a friend asked if her and I were still hanging out and during that convo I remembered something she said the first time we got together which seemed odd.

She said she had to go home because she was going to make dinner for her roommates. In retrospect that was either a cop out to end the "date" or code for "it's almost time for our daily threesome"

Don't know any girl who'd cook for two dudes unless she was in school to be a chef.

 

[backbreaker]

The irony of your posts is that I don't really see your red flags as real red flags and the actual red flags you are treating like normal **** lol.

she's the only girl there. it's not out of the question that the guys can't cook worth a **** and part of her arrangement is to cook dinner X nights a week. makes perfect sense. i seriously doubt they are having gangbang sessions if that were the case why would she be dating anyone lol?

this thought that womnen have to be at our becon call is very beta ish in nature. it shows your insecurities in yourself to jump to these conclusions everytime she doesn't do EXACTLY what she says she is going to do. **** happens in real life. last night i was talking to a client at 6pm about a new project, and i had promised i would take my wife and son out to eat and it was time to go so i told them i would call them back at 8pm when i got home. i got home at 8pm and you know what.. i was freaking tired. i didn't want to call them so i didn't. i'll call them today. doesn't mean i'm cheating ont he client.


people make plans in real life, and sometimes **** happens to alter those plans. put on your big boy underwear and deal with it. this chick is a girl who is in school, probably has an active social life with friends and ****, i'm assuming she has a job since she is paying rent, her life does not revolve around you and sometimes **** comes up and she's not obligated to send you a message everytime her plans change.


but as i stated, i would have never been dealing with the girl in the first place the second she gave me the "i don't have any female friends" line. but if you are past that, you are going BETA man by throwing a hissy fit over these make believe gangbang sessions. you are worse than she is and you don't see it.

 

[Scaramouche]

Dear Tryst,
You are worrying needlessly...This is a very common situation.......You have her two flatmates out in the open,you can see your potential opposition objectively,were she with a bunch of girls it's much harder as they will continually be bringing blokes around and throwing parties......So just make sure and be good friends with her flatmates,and spin the odd plate here and there!

 

[SecondHalf]

First you sleep with the woman, then you figure out if she's worthy of more.
You're thinking about more before you sleep with her.

The other posters have summed up this woman perfectly, she's a user who uses her sexuality to make life easier for her. This is never going to change.

However, an HB9 plate?
Bring it on!
Am I missing something?

SH

 

[tryst type]

So you guys are suggesting I contact her again and try setting up another meet?

 

[SecondHalf]

So you guys are suggesting I contact her again and try setting up another meet?

Absolutely, provided you never let her get her foot in the door.

She is plate material only. But do tread carefully, you'll likely be playing with a skilled adversary.

Also, be honest with yourself, if you can have fun without falling under her spell, you're good. If you already know you'll be vulnerable, it's likely best to let this one go.

There is no shame in walking away from risk. I've done it in the past ... sadly, I've also failed at it.

If you do, make sure she's not your primary.

SH

 

[tryst type]

I guess if I remember to I will in a few days. Don't feel like reaching out so soon after she was the one who said she'd be in touch.

 

[Die Hard]

Yes, Mr. unsure, insecure, doubt-a-lot!!

But only if you can keep your emotions in check... This girl is only good for sex and to be treated like SH!T. If you have trouble regarding her like that, then you better eject right now coz she is gonna fvck your mind up BIG TIME if you regard her any other way.

To be honest, I'm very worried that you can't... The following quote of yours is particularly unsettling:

Looking for some input because besides that she has long term potential and wants to hang out more.

Apparently, you are already playing with the thought that this chick may have long term potential

Slap yourself in the face right now! Better yet, get a bucket full of ice-cold water and throw it all over yourself! You better get that long term potential idea out of that stupid head of yours RIGHT NOW!

She's danger and she will screw you up if you give her even one inch of leeway. Treat all women like dirt, use them only for sex, cheat on them, consider them as objects etc. Guys often exaggerate these views on women and turn it into a prejudice against all women...
But in this case? All that advice is SPOT ON!

So do just that and if you can't do that, then you better eject right now.

 

[Tictac]

If you think she's a '9', hit her up and figure out the rest as you go.

This is not rocket science.

No one will die if you miscalculate.

 

[Colossus]

Met this chick who's an easy h9 she has that sexy nerdy look and you can tell gets hit on often.

We hung out the other day and she mentioned how 98% of her friends are guys and the reason is she's too saracastic for girls and they don't get her personality.

Her current roommates are two guys , one of which she says has been in love with her since high school and she's convinced is still a virgin.

She struck me as VERY shy and nervous around me, the kind that appear not interested/standoffish. She became little comfortable and her supposed sarcasm came out. How true it is that's why she prefers male friends I don't know.

Looking for some input because besides that she has long term potential and wants to hang out more. Just don't want to set myself up for any non-sense "alpha male" projection drama from her guy friends.

Bro. You need to revisit your definition of "long-term potential". I highlighted red flags in red for you.

Also, hold yourself to a higher standard and don't pump and dump. Pumping and dumping is a scavenger mentality and makes you no better than the sluts you despise. Internet alpha male posturing aside, if a guy is TRULY a high value dude he isn't going to allow sub-par skanks to slither over his c0ck, no matter how "hot" they are. He has other options and he isn't afraid of temporary solitude.

 

[Vigs]

Most of a women's male friends are orbiters hoping one day she will magically see what a great guy they are and toss him some vag.

Saying she doesn't have many female friends because she is too sarcastic is like saying "she is great once you get to know her." What it really means is "She is a *****, but you will get used to it."

Men will orbit because they hope to get laid. Women next her as a friend.

 

[dasein]

Too little information to know anything other than you want to hit. Make a plan to hit and execute that plan, forget about all the other BS until that is accomplished, THEN worry about who her friends are and her living and cooking arrangements. Or rather don't worry about that stuff even then. All you should be concerned about now is 1. Does she enthusiastically spend time with me alone? and 2. Does she respond enthusiastically to my escalating physical attention? That's it.

Too much text back and forth. Call. Ask out for specific time and plans. Execute plans. Keep binary, keep yourself sane.

Yeah, having all male friends is a red flag, but why do you care at this point? You are putting the " long term potential" cart before the "f-ck" horse. No, don't pump and dump, yes, do have sex before allowing this person lots of real estate in your mind. Good luck.

 

[tryst type]

Well she has disappeared, I haven't heard anything from her at all since the last time we spoke about potentially getting together again.