"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Re: Walking away from bad behavior - How to handle getting name drug through the mud?

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More or less an addendum to Rascal's great thread about walking away from low quality girls...

Just had to let a girl go who I've been seeing for the last 6-7 months for terrible behavior and life decisions. She is a smoking hot delusional nut job who is not accountable or responsible for anything in her life.. She expects to be treated like a princess regardless of her behavior while 1000 white knights feed her attention starved soul and believe she can do no wrong. Some bros are helpless I swear to God. Anyway, it started as FWB: I told her from day 1 that if she doesn't get her **** together than we will never be exclusive and I never budged while she confessed her undying love for me and rationalized my lack of reciprocation it as not caring about her and demonizing me to everyone we know. We have been friends for a long time prior and she is in my social circle amongst my other alpha widowed exes and white knights rushing to her side to shame me.

I gave her the boot - how do I keep my name from being drug through the mud? How to maintain state control towards the sh*t storm of badmouthing to other people that is for sure soon to follow?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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I had something similar. The girl in question was the butter wouldn't melt in her mouth type. real angel. she played me like a first rate fiddle I'm not ashamed to admit and she was good considering how innocent and naive she acted. Or I was just really AFC. More likely the latter.

Anyhow, like you I called her on her bullsh1t after months of silence and she apologised and we haven't spoken since. She still hangs around people I know. I found holding my silence to be the most dignified option. I do not dignify her by uttering her name once. Besides, nobody would believe me if I told them anyway. Her beta orbiter friends hold her in too high regard. I did try once but they would not have it. So I gave up and just kept my mouth shut.
 

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Why exactly would you care what a bunch of morons think?
 

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AttackFormation said:
Why exactly would you care what a bunch of morons think?
because when morons get together they can cause all sorts of hell for another person.
 

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AttackFormation said:
Why exactly would you care what a bunch of morons think?
I don't however she is sure to be a vengeful c*ckblock to other chicks and demonize me to all. I have a very large social circle and a bit of a redpill reputation if you will which makes it easy for white knights and disgruntled exes to rationalize that I am a scumbag.

Most of the girls/exes in my group know what's up with this chick and adore me however I feel as though this crazy b*tch will get out of control with some things. This is more or less a question of damage control or a what if...
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Bad behavior always rises to the top... or bottom. People eventually find out if a chick is a kook or not. They can hide it very well for time but the self entitled brat always comes out.

We as men are stupid. If she demonizes you some AFC chump will just be glad she's talking to him because she's so hot and they have something to talk about it... even if you were a bro once.

I say kill her with kindness. Try not to speak ill of her. Offer to be friends but never actually hang out. Always find a reason to avoid her.

I get it. Same thing happened to me when I cut it off. Mutual friends and man... SHE WENT NUTS. Started screaming at them for hanging out with me. Serious grade school stuff. Acting a fool. At one point she even said I hit her to someone and I ripped her a new one for such a bs lie. Thing is rational people will figure her out.

In the long run your real friends know who you are and what you're about. Consider this a good test of friendship. Anyone who doesn't get it isn't smart enough to be your friend. Anyone who takes sides isn't mature. And anyone who villifies you without knowing the facts isn't worth speaking to again.
 

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Johnny Alias said:
Bad behavior always rises to the top... or bottom. People eventually find out if a chick is a kook or not. They can hide it very well for time but the self entitled brat always comes out.

We as men are stupid. If she demonizes you some AFC chump will just be glad she's talking to him because she's so hot and they have something to talk about it... even if you were a bro once.

I say kill her with kindness. Try not to speak ill of her. Offer to be friends but never actually hang out. Always find a reason to avoid her.

I get it. Same thing happened to me when I cut it off. Mutual friends and man... SHE WENT NUTS. Started screaming at them for hanging out with me. Serious grade school stuff. Acting a fool. At one point she even said I hit her to someone and I ripped her a new one for such a bs lie. Thing is rational people will figure her out.

In the long run your real friends know who you are and what you're about. Consider this a good test of friendship. Anyone who doesn't get it isn't smart enough to be your friend. Anyone who takes sides isn't mature. And anyone who villifies you without knowing the facts isn't worth speaking to again.
I was thinking about making a reply but this post was pretty much going to be what I'd say.

People might be impressed into taking her side in the start because she tries to make them take a side and you don't, but after they realise that her target is a windmill instead of you sinking to her level and fighting back (the only way she could win this), they'll back you up and isolate her from themselves - even if they don't one day approach you and say "yeah that b1tch was a nutcase, I'm sorry about before bro".

You'll win this one by being the better man.
 

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...how do I keep my name from being drug through the mud? How to maintain state control towards the sh*t storm of badmouthing to other people that is for sure soon to follow?[/QUOTE

Why do you care about what she says about you? Your friends know what the real deal is concerning this broad, so their opinions should be the only ones that matter.
 
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