"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Question about the Cube

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I'm just curious, is there actually any validity to the cube? Has any psychologist shown that there's any accuracy in this visualizaiton practice?

I recognize why guys use it to get girls to open up on a deeper level and to get pass superficial fluff level of discussion. I would like to use something like this as a last resort if I'm stuck on surface level conversation.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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imo it's simply a gimmick. Sure it's fun if your trying to use it on a girl to get on a "deeper" level, but if you have enough social skills you can do that without the use of a toy.
 

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Even with social skills, going from getting from superficial chit chat straight to deeper level connection takes some time. What's good about such a gimmick is that it's sort of a shortcut.

Problem is, if Mystery is now doing this sh*t on TV your cover could get blown real quick.
 

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I've been away for a while. What the hell is the Cube? I've taken a Rubik's Cube and a Slinky out to the clubs and bars before on seperate occasions and those have made for easy openers, but I dont' feel like this is what you guys are talking about.
 

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kdnash82 said:
I've taken a Rubik's Cube and a Slinky out to the clubs and bars before on seperate occasions and those have made for easy openers,
...hmmmm.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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Just another tacky gimmick that every HB has seen demonstrated by some wannabe PUA

The Cube is just another crutch and will actually prevent you from progressing as a DJ
 

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Derek Flint said:
Just another tacky gimmick that every HB has seen demonstrated by some wannabe PUA

The Cube is just another crutch and will actually prevent you from progressing as a DJ
Excatly thats what i'm saying. A real DJ doesn't rely on games, and gimmicks to connect to a chick no matter if she is superficial. If a biitch is superficial don't try to W-O-W her with a freaking cube. I really do feel sorry for some of the guy's here who still just don't quite "get it" I don't care who you are if you have enough "game" and depending on the chick if you have dhv you will get what you want without the use of gimmicks and over used techniques preached by all these PUA's.

So many of these guys have spend a good amount of time reading all the PUA books and learning all the techniques and gimmicks, but a real Playa knows that none of that shiit matters in the end. However with all the gimmicks and techniques they are still missing the fundamentals which starts with them selves. Oh well maybe some guy will learn from this.
 

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Of course many guys here don't have a lot of game, duh...that's why we came to this forum in the first place. I think we all realize that after a certain time you won't need gimmicks or routines, but nobody goes from AFC to DJ overnight. A couple routines up your sleeve won't hurt if you run out of material, at least for a beginner anyway. I'm planning to go out with this chic tomorrow, I might try out the cube just to see how she reacts.
 

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Most of the stuff that we all have learned here is exactly what some of your screaming against, games, techniques, etc. Most tips and posts here are all about what to say, how to react, what should we do, etc. Those are all part of the game. Those are all things that we weren't born knowing.

It is like saying that because you use a calculator you won't ever get good at math. Duh! They are just tools, just like anything else. For those of you who are gonna regurtitate the old talking points against it. Let's just say we disagree. I see your point, yet I cannot agree with you, at least not completely.

Games like the cube, etc. are actually better to play with somebody you already approached and on a second day (first get together) meeting. Believe me, if you don't have anything else besides the Cube, you won't get far with anybody.

I wouldn't even call them training wheels. I would say all those games, gimmicks are good to use at anytime with anybody. Its different, entertaining and fun to do. If you actually need them just to get chicks, you got far worse problems and it won't help you much. Stop being so damn uptight about everything. I swear, some here seem so angry about everything. Gents, go out and get laid more. I know you already do, but perhaps you need sex even more.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Gangster Of Love said:
Most of the stuff that we all have learned here is exactly what some of your screaming against, games, techniques, etc. Most tips and posts here are all about what to say, how to react, what should we do, etc. Those are all part of the game. Those are all things that we weren't born knowing.

It is like saying that because you use a calculator you won't ever get good at math. Duh! They are just tools, just like anything else. For those of you who are gonna regurtitate the old talking points against it. Let's just say we disagree. I see your point, yet I cannot agree with you, at least not completely.

Games like the cube, etc. are actually better to play with somebody you already approached and on a second day (first get together) meeting. Believe me, if you don't have anything else besides the Cube, you won't get far with anybody.

I wouldn't even call them training wheels. I would say all those games, gimmicks are good to use at anytime with anybody. Its different, entertaining and fun to do. If you actually need them just to get chicks, you got far worse problems and it won't help you much. Stop being so damn uptight about everything. I swear, some here seem so angry about everything. Gents, go out and get laid more. I know you already do, but perhaps you need sex even more.
While you make a point about some things i simply pointing out that so many guy's here are focusing on the wrong thing. The only thing about this forum is so many afc's come here to get advice yet they run into so many topics that barely help them out. Granted your gonna have some lurker read all the crappy topics posted here and he will be far off. I'm not saying this topic nesscary fits the description but the problem is this topic forums focuses way to much on the wrong this when it comes to dealing with seduction.

I'm not uptight but it's simply sad to see a place that has much potential slowly get worst by the day. I really feel for the poor afc's who are can't distinguish the "real" advice as opposed to the crap some wannabe is speaking out of his asz. Oh well i'm only one guy.
 

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If someone is an rAFC, then go ahead with the "Cube"

But if you're anything but a newbie, gimmicks like the "Cube" will keep you from progressing.

I guess the people who do not understand this haven't reached the point yet where they would.

And now that this whole "community" stuff has gone mainstream, every hot chick has seen a demonstration of "The Cube" or they soon will.

Just think, you run the "Cube" on her, she thinks you're great, then some other guy runs it on her a week later. Then another guy. Then another.

All of a sudden, you're not so great in her eyes anymore.

Or worse, you're the 3rd guy that day/week/month to demonstrate "The Cube" on her.

There are plenty of other reasons to avoid the gimmicks, but the main one is that people become "routine dependent" because it's easier than becoming a seducer. Not learning seduction, but learning how to become a seducer.

Big difference between the two.

People will naturally take the path of least resistence, such as learning gimmicks, which will prevent you from progressing.

Take it from someone who has been in "The Community" off and on for over 10years.


It's easier to parrot a seducer, but it's much harder to become one.

But guess which way if far more effective and rewarding?
 
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