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Prime age?

Jaylan

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From what I have seen, the pickup community tends to place the range of prime age of a womans attractiveness somewhere between 17 and 22 years of age. With the median being about 20.

However, I was looking at the 2011 SI swimsuit website, as well as askmen.com and a couple other sites to gather the median age of the most attractive women selected.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/swimsuit/

on the SI site, models for this years issue range from 18 to 27 with the median being 23 to 25. Also, askmen.com top 99 countdown has plenty of older women in their list, but they dont use hotness and youthful good looks alone as a factor. So I am going off SI really and the average age of super models(they tend to be 23 to 26 and are top of the pyramid and seen the most in publications).

Now considering getting in the SI swimsuit issue means a model is at the top of their game, does that mean that the PUA skews a bit younger than general male consensus on what is found to be hot?

For me, I tend to think a woman is most attractive between the ages of 21 and 27....shes a full grown woman and doesnt have the aging signs yet. Im talking about healthy gals who take care of their body. With my median age of top attractiveness in terms of who I notice being 22.

What say you?

Edit: P.S. where would you throw a guys most attractive age range, and also median age for being most attractive. From what I see in popular culture, the average range tends to be 18 to 35....with the median being 25. So it would seem to me mid 20s is everyones prime but women have a sharp decline after that in terms of societal adornment.
 

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Most 16 years old girls are not in the business and face some kind of cultural stop till they get a little bit older, otherwise Im sure they would easily beat a 25 yrs old one.

I know it sounds "perverted" but cannot screw with mother nature,for men is a total different thing since its not so much a matter of beauty only but a matter of performance and strengh.
I mean beauty on a man depends on his shape and potential mostly.

We get our prime on late twenties, you simply dont have the maximum amount of hormones to reach your physical potential before, except few sports.

In my opinion a girls prime is between 16 and 22 and mens one is between 26 and 30.
Needless to tell men age like wine and girls age like milk.
 

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Strelok said:
Most 16 years old girls are not in the business and face some kind of cultural stop till they get a little bit older, otherwise Im sure they would easily beat a 25 yrs old one.
I dunno. It depends. By and large, on average, I think women in 22-25 would have no problem looking better than 16 year olds. Im saying on average because you have to remember many girls arent fully developed at that age...face wise or body wise. Plus the top models tend to be in the 22 to 25 range.

You also have to remember many girls start modeling at 13 to 16 years of age nowadays and dont beat out top models for jobs. So I would say this is telling, though you have a point regarding a 16 yr olds access to the business.

Strelok said:
I know it sounds "perverted" but cannot screw with mother nature,for men is a total different thing since its not so much a matter of beauty only but a matter of performance and strength.
Its not perverted. Its simple hormonal response. Plenty of women react to a male whos got the physical prowess they are drawn to even if hes some teenage kid. Taylor Lautner from twilight is a good example. Youd be surprised what I hear women say about this kid even though he just turned 19

Just many women dont admit they look at younger men because society says women shouldnt and that its a man thing to want younger mates, while its a female thing to want older mates. If the body is attractive and looks youthful, youll have the urge to smash, no matter which gender you are.

Strelok said:
I mean beauty on a man depends on his shape and potential mostly.

We get our prime on late twenties, you simply dont have the maximum amount of hormones to reach your physical potential before, except few sports.

In my opinion a girls prime is between 16 and 22 and mens one is between 26 and 30.
Needless to tell men age like wine and girls age like milk.
True about male hormones. Testosterone peaks at 25 and plateaus till your mid thirties and then falls off. Makes sense considering in pro sports athletes usually hit their best years between 25 and 35.

But regarding "prime" I was targeting the whole package of both genders. Looks, youth, and physical maturity.
 
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