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ok last night i sent my standard pof copy paste msg. got a number and arranged for a picnic date next tues. (she's busy tonight and sat and im busy sun) i text her today to make the arrangements telling her i cant do sunday. she texts me a few hours later saying i msg;d her friend on pof the exact same msg and asked if i copy paste. i just agreed and amplified saying i messaged it to everyone on pof and that im not the only guy she's talking to on there and she doesn't hear me complaining. turning it back on her.

then she says shes not jealous or worried and jokingly asks who am i having a picnic this weekend? clearly she's trying to get info to see if im a player or what not. i go only girls who are fashionable (basically said her from her description in her profile) she says 'i'm the only one :) have a good weekend ;)' meaning enjoy your picnic. basically she 'thinks' i got lots of dates off pof lined up (not a bad thing for value) but at same time she doesn't just want to be 'one' of the ones im seeing. i go 'so we on for mon/tues then?' she texts back: it's not a date. is it?

i go: 'well what's the point in meeting if it's not a date? :) it's a dating site im not on there to make friends i have a enough of those. her: 'ok ok :) i can do tues and bring champagne please :) see you then' now this had me thinking who the f does she think she is.. i haven't even met her and she's demanding champagne.. typical russian girl behavior. i called her out on that tho in my next text telling her to bring the champagne and do something for me cos im bringing the strawberries and cream and beach towel and that i was cheeky asking me that and i thought she said she wasnt a typical russian girl. maybe she thinks im cheap, but she's a typical spoilt russian girl pretending she isn't expecting me to be a gentleman and spend lots of money on her and i haven't even met her yet.

she didn't reply. should i bother to tell her on monday what time we're meeting on tues? i haven't arranged the precise time yet. i feel like i shouldnt even chase it up.. she's hot granted, but with entitlement issues and golden pvssy thoughts. i feel like i shouldnt even need to confirm our meeting and should let her contact me to confirm? this girl wants to be wined/dined cos she's used to it. f that.
 

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Sounds like a whole lot of underlying drama already, and you haven't even met yet.

I would go NC and not plan on going Tuesday, and IF she contacts you about it, then and only then would I make plans to go.

But this sounds like one of those people that you are destined to just rub each other the wrong way.
 

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cordoncordon said:
But this sounds like one of those people that you are destined to just rub each other the wrong way.
I agree. lol. I know a chick that tries way too hard to play hard to get, and sometimes it just gets annoying. Though I do see the reason she does it. She's maybe, on a good day, a 6 with a decent body. I pretty much just bang her sometimes, though she's been craving a relationship lately.

Sometimes she just flips my words around on me when it's something really stupid, like:
"Hey, do you like my shirt?"
"It's alright."
"So you're saying it would look better on a model?"

At that point, I usually just roll my eyes and laugh because of the novelty of a girl who actually says stupid sh!t like that.

Basically, I'd just go NC with this chick. Sex with an annoying chick gets old, and it's never really worth the work. She usually over-values herself if she's annoying. lol.
 

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pete101 said:
ok last night i sent my standard pof copy paste msg. got a number and arranged for a picnic date next tues. (she's busy tonight and sat and im busy sun) i text her today to make the arrangements telling her i cant do sunday. she texts me a few hours later saying i msg;d her friend on pof the exact same msg and asked if i copy paste. i just agreed and amplified saying i messaged it to everyone on pof and that im not the only guy she's talking to on there and she doesn't hear me complaining. turning it back on her.

then she says shes not jealous or worried and jokingly asks who am i having a picnic this weekend? clearly she's trying to get info to see if im a player or what not. i go only girls who are fashionable (basically said her from her description in her profile) she says 'i'm the only one :) have a good weekend ;)' meaning enjoy your picnic. basically she 'thinks' i got lots of dates off pof lined up (not a bad thing for value) but at same time she doesn't just want to be 'one' of the ones im seeing. i go 'so we on for mon/tues then?' she texts back: it's not a date. is it?

i go: 'well what's the point in meeting if it's not a date? :) it's a dating site im not on there to make friends i have a enough of those. her: 'ok ok :) i can do tues and bring champagne please :) see you then' now this had me thinking who the f does she think she is.. i haven't even met her and she's demanding champagne.. typical russian girl behavior. i called her out on that tho in my next text telling her to bring the champagne and do something for me cos im bringing the strawberries and cream and beach towel and that i was cheeky asking me that and i thought she said she wasnt a typical russian girl. maybe she thinks im cheap, but she's a typical spoilt russian girl pretending she isn't expecting me to be a gentleman and spend lots of money on her and i haven't even met her yet.

she didn't reply. should i bother to tell her on monday what time we're meeting on tues? i haven't arranged the precise time yet. i feel like i shouldnt even chase it up.. she's hot granted, but with entitlement issues and golden pvssy thoughts. i feel like i shouldnt even need to confirm our meeting and should let her contact me to confirm? this girl wants to be wined/dined cos she's used to it. f that.

Pete. Don't bother. POF chicks even the biggest slores on there like to think they're "special" and THINK they want some dude to kiss their azz but really only want it for their own ego and lose all respect for the dude. (As if they actually have respect for themselves in the first place but that's neither here nor there.)

IF she replies back to you...DO NOT go into long responses. Make them short so she gets the hint you aren't going to kiss her azz. Don't reply right away also.

These POF chicks are nothing but pump and dump material. Don't be the dude who wines and dines a POF slore while she just got back from blowing some other dude who simply told her to "come over".

She can either go to something simple in which you WILL escalate on the meet or she can fvck off with her damaged POF "relationship" seeking azz.

Don't kid yourself at all aboout ANY chick who uses online dating. No bitterness. Straight truth. I've seen it from faaar too many chicks online to know the types who use fluff filler on their profiles, act sweet on the phone, seem "normal" at first but are all h0es looking for c0ck and or free meals. Nothing more. Don't put romantic "get to know you" effort into online h0es. EVER.
 

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djjizzyjeff said:
Pete. Don't bother. POF chicks even the biggest slores on there like to think they're "special" and THINK they want some dude to kiss their azz but really only want it for their own ego and lose all respect for the dude. (As if they actually have respect for themselves in the first place but that's neither here nor there.)

These POF chicks are nothing but pump and dump material. Don't be the dude who wines and dines a POF slore while she just got back from blowing some other dude who simply told her to "come over".

She can either go to something simple in which you WILL escalate on the meet or she can fvck off with her damaged POF "relationship" seeking azz.

Don't kid yourself at all aboout ANY chick who uses online dating. No bitterness. Straight truth. I've seen it from faaar too many chicks online to know the types who use fluff filler on their profiles, act sweet on the phone, seem "normal" at first but are all h0es looking for c0ck and or free meals. Nothing more. Don't put romantic "get to know you" effort into online h0es. EVER.
Spot on - I just got out of a 9 month relationship with a single mum off there. 2 weeks later and she's banging some dude she knew off there before me, just for relf respect and self esteem purposes
 

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yeah good advice guys. i wont speak to her anymore unless she messages me first about tuesday.

im not going to be walked over any more, this is a learning process. have to have some self respect and not waste time on women who are more interested in what we're doing or going or how much im going to spend.

in fairness i think i dealt with the whole messaging her friend and copy pasting thing ok but it'll def arise again, i cant be bothered to write individual messages so i'm following naughtyninjas template it just saves me time and hassle.
 

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Just some advice:

1. I really dislike setting up a date so far away. YES 4 days is far away in POF land.

2. Why pick a picnic date? I've done that once in my life, and it was with a girl I "loved" (blah).... You really should avoid being in a "dating frame" with girls from online.... It's the same reason i preach against going on dates with these girls at all... MOST of them - if they want you bad enough - will come directly to your house and after a few shots, will be begging you to hit the spot.

3. She seems manipulative. And you seem be be manipulable.

4. Realizing a mistake (letting her control the frame and dictating that you'll be bringing the champagne) and trying to reverse is (telling her later that she will be the one bringing the champagne). Is worse than just accepting the frame in the first place.

5. You can't expect a girl to act like she doesn't have a golden pvssy, if you treat her like she does.

"It's not a date is it?"
"well what's the point in meeting if it's not a date? it's a dating site im not on there to make friends i have a enough of those."

Is cringe worthy....

You're not going to cassanova this girls panties off.

Leave that sh!t for the movies.
 

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pete101 said:
yeah good advice guys. i wont speak to her anymore unless she messages me first about tuesday.

im not going to be walked over any more, this is a learning process. have to have some self respect and not waste time on women who are more interested in what we're doing or going or how much im going to spend.

in fairness i think i dealt with the whole messaging her friend and copy pasting thing ok but it'll def arise again, i cant be bothered to write individual messages so i'm following naughtyninjas template it just saves me time and hassle.

Trust me dude. If she thought you were some chiseled God she wouldn't give a fvk if you'd slept with her POF friend let alone simply copy and pasted a first message. As if every reply of yours to her after was copy and paste? Please.

Think of it like this: Do you, or any of these chicks make up unique openers to every different person you meet in real life? Hell no. You start with hi. It's the real life "copy and paste".

This chick wants you to jump through hoops and qualify yourself to herself an online slvt butt while she thinks she likes that but only wants that for her own ego and would lose respect for you in doing so?

Drop all ego, emotion or caring about anyone and anything online.

The same way I cared less when I purposely got my NN account banned with my full bars of green. It means jack squat.

If she comes around keep it cool. don't show any negative emotion. Play it knowing she's a clown like a professional con artist. Do not care. Then meet escalate and pump and dump her.

IF not. No biggie. Keep spamming and ignore her. She's online just like you. And as a chick no less. Speaks volumes to what she brings to the table in real life or how in demand she is in her area. (most likely the town nut job/cvm dumpster.) nothing more.

What BM said above. ESPECIALLY HERE:

It's the same reason i preach against going on dates with these girls at all... MOST of them - if they want you bad enough - will come directly to your house and after a few shots, will be begging you to hit the spot.
 

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well she cancelled anyway on Sunday sent me a text:

'Cant do tuesday! sorry'

i didn't respond, no contact nothing. because she was suspicious about me supposedly having a date on Sunday I duno if she was testing me to see if i was online or what not. i remove her from my favourites list.

anyway fast foward to this morning. i wake up look at my inbox and see she's not there anymore i.e. she's blocked me on pof. so i do the same. it could well be she just did it cos it's annoying seeing people you dont want to talk to online status above the messages with a green dot so she might have did it for just that. then i thought i dont want her to know i've blocked her either cos it'll give her validation. so i unblock her and leave it.

tbh this is all too much effort for some random hot pof girl. i do no contact she does not come back, she does the opposite and blocks me. clearly she was never interested in the first place?
 

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pete101 said:
well she cancelled anyway on Sunday sent me a text:

'Cant do tuesday! sorry'

i didn't respond, no contact nothing. because she was suspicious about me supposedly having a date on Sunday I duno if she was testing me to see if i was online or what not. i remove her from my favourites list.

anyway fast foward to this morning. i wake up look at my inbox and see she's not there anymore i.e. she's blocked me on pof. so i do the same. it could well be she just did it cos it's annoying seeing people you dont want to talk to online status above the messages with a green dot so she might have did it for just that. then i thought i dont want her to know i've blocked her either cos it'll give her validation. so i unblock her and leave it.

tbh this is all too much effort for some random hot pof girl. i do no contact she does not come back, she does the opposite and blocks me. clearly she was never interested in the first place?
Pete you simply have to realize when you are dealing with spoiled, diseased minded chicks who expect dudes to kiss there azz even when they are complete trash who has to use online "dating" especially as a hot CHICK.

And God forbid if you aren't a complete "God" in their eyes and YOU are STILL having success. They HATE that. Because they hate the person they are. It's like the dude who keeps attacking you because he doesn't think you should be getting as many chicks as you do and keeps trying to sabotage it. (Everyone knows dudes like that.) These hot online chicks are simply like that. They want to be #1 even if they treat others like hot garbage.

There are a lot of them on there who are so delusional to the type of chick they really are they still think because they simply put up their hottest looking pics that that is their value when in real life all they bring to the table is problems for anyone.

Let some "God" deal with her nonsense or pump and dump her. Because trust me, if she saw you were some perfect 10 in looks dude the LAST thing she'd do is block you as the fantasy validation from the top looking male would be used by her to validate her existance.

Think of it this way. She DID reply to you. You have talked with her. And you've found the reason she NEEDS online "dating".

I cannot stress enough that all of those chicks who wind up resorting to online dating are complete fvck ups, damaged etc. I don't care how "nice" they seem online or on the phone even on a meet or a few..

It's like an iceberg you only see what's on top and not the mass of what's underneath before it's too late.

You simply cannot take anything or anyone on there with anything but a grain of salt. NEVER look to validate yourself off a chick LET ALONE some hot chicks pics. Period.

So the KJing "hot princess" blocked you. I'd laugh at it that the little girl got pissed and forget about it and keep it moving.

From Dust 2 Dust on another online dating thread:

Attractive mentally sane women don't need online dating. Women don't go online until after they've poisoned the local well.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

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