"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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please critique my convo with women

commodore

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hey there

i had a conversation with a lady today at a college caferia

she was really interested in me at first but as time went by, she realised i was pretty socially weak, which i am. i think it was my fault the conversation went to ****, i tried that ****y funny thing but it didnt go to well

what i was hoping to do is basically paste the contents of the convo and have you kind people tell me what i did wrong and where i can add in some humour. i know im naturally a funny person, my friends say it all the time, im just not that good in front of ladies. so here it is. (ill just cut the intro crap)

part1
me: so you smoke do you?
her: yeah, but ive been trying to cut back
me: oh ok, how long u been smoking for?
her: since i was in highschool, but i tried to quit when moving to college.
me: ok, so you thought lung cancer was a small price to pay for popularity? (<<-- failed humour)
her: umm, no, i dont usually smoke in front of people.
me: ic

the convo was much longer and ill post some more failed parts later on.
let me just say that she wasnt being a *****, she was cool. i totally blame myself for screwing up and not taking the lead etc. im just trying to work on small parts of my convos with women, its all easy to say "be ****y and funny" but it just doesnt work for me. i need to analyse small parts of conversation and slowly develop some skills.

any help is appreciated. cheers
 

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You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

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I can see how the line "so you thought lung cancer was a small price to pay for popularity" could miserably fail, said in the wrong tone of voice. If you didn't say this line smiling, and carefree, it would sound almost insulting.
 

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I dont mean this to be offensive but from what you have write it sounds like you were nervous while you were talking. When I used to be nervous my convo was ****, not because the subjects I talked about were boring but because my nervousness showed through and I was very self concious. Now that I feel good about myself and I have more confidence I dont even have to think about what I say it comes naturally. IMO the best way to pick up women is to lead an interesting social life and to try to eliminate all the things you are not happy with about yourself ie if your too fat or too thin then go to the gym. By placing yourself in more social settings living a good social life you will develop a better conversational flow and you will never be short of things to talk about. When it comes to the date telling funny and interesting stories works best as it shows that you are an interesting person.
 

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My honest opinion you just took it way to serious, if you remember one of the biggest rules of C&F was "just have fun with it"

You tried man, there's no need to try. When she said "I'm trying to cut back" just hit her with "Ah, don't worry, I'll still come to your funeral"

You can joke with her about you just buying a new suit and wanting to wear it soon.
 

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Are you able to have a normal conversation with out trying to be C&F? I know I used to have trouble even just talking normally - and if you can't do that there's no way you can legitimately pull of C&F.

My advice is just to talk to as many women as possible with out trying to be funny. Eventually you'll know what makes them 'tick' and you'll be funny with trying (which is what you want - trying to be funny is canned and stressful on you).
 

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Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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i think this is some great advice.

thanks alot. i was definitely nervous, thats for sure. when im not being c&f, im actually really funny, around guys and girls i dont like, i usually swear a whole lot more and make dirty jokes and they always crack up and find it funny, noones ever called me out for being insulting.

around my OAs, i have to clean up my language and obviously cut the dirt out, and usually i come up with new material on the spot which makes it sound forced and stupid etc.

but ur all right, i defenitly need to get out more and get a social life and develop good convo skills.

thanks all
 

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I think the way you just described it you'd be good at talking to girls and using CF if you werent nervous. Jus Practice by talking to random girls more and more and the nervousness will be replaced with confidence.
 
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