Peacocking.. Field testing.. :)

[cyp6]

So today when I when to my part time job at the mall as a usher for an oxygen bar, some thing interesting happened.

I remembered some thing that I read form the mystery method, he was talking about peacocking.. For those of you who don’t know, its when a DJ wears some thing out of the ordinary, specifically to draw attention to him self. Like a feather boa, really bright shirt or a glow in the dark necklace. He dose this because he can make it look cool even though the same thing on a non confident dude would make him look like a looser. Pulse it peacocking also provides a HB an excuse to approach you to comment about a DJ’s “prop” with out seeming to break the social norm of only men approaching.

Well any ways back to my story….

I barrowed a leather cowboy hat from the chick that was working in the store next to mine, and as I was walking to buy some lunch I walked by a bunch of dudes… and they started to laugh at my hat cause I was wearing a cowboy hat and a really nice suit. So right at the moment I decided to spend 60 bucks on that hat because mystery had mentioned some thing about how if other guys laugh at you about your prop then its probably a good one. Well it turns out that this was a great investment.. As I had lunch alone, I was approached by a group girls commenting about the hat (they joined my table) . Also while I was going to the parking lot to go home tonight I noticed a lot of eye contact. More than normal.

Moral for this post…

Peacocking is awesome…

Post any stories related to peacoking..

 

[Derek Flint]

"Peacocking" is just another prop, just another gimmick, just another crutch that will actually hurt your growth and progression as a DJ rather than help it.

And, the whole thing about HB's having an excuse to approach you is weak. You should be approaching them.

And why do you need eye contact or any other "IOIs" to approach?

You should approach who you want, when you want, and not have to wait for eye contact, or HB's to comment on your outfit.

 

[cyp6]

its pleasent bro... when girls come and talk to you... some times its just nice bro.. but being a cruch is very true. but so is djing with wing or pivot...

 

[Derek Flint]

Seems the whole concept of what a DJ is has been lost.

It's not about tactics, techniques, gimmicks, routines, etc...

It's about become the type of Man that people, including women, admire and want to spend time with.

Things like Peacocking and such will actually slow your progress in becoming that type of person.

Inner game + true confidence is all that is needed.

All the other stuff is just BS, being promoted by a bunch of guys to part you from your money.

Think the guys that paid $3,800 for Style's DVD's have buyers remorse right now?

Reminds me of these clown with these Japanese imports with the park bench wing and the ebay body kit and the Kragen/auto zone wheels.

They think they look so cool, not realizing that they are being laughed at.

Not to mention, their cars are slow as f***

It's all an illusion.

Take "Negs" for example.

If you have to use Negs to knock a girl off of her pedestal, guess who has the lower value?

Guess who is displaying the lower value?

Tricks and tactics and canned routines may get your foot in the door, but after that, when the HB sees that underneath it all is an AFC posing as a DJ, then the jig is up.

If you're not making internal changes for the better, getting your inner game together, than you're not making progress.

 

[Derek Flint]

its pleasent bro... when girls come and talk to you... some times its just nice bro.. but being a cruch is very true. but so is djing with wing or pivot...

So are you Peacocking to get validation/attention from women?

Realize that seeking a woman’s validation by seeking her attention is a trap, because you can never get enough of this type of validation. It's like a drug, always requiring more and more, but no matter how much, it never seems to be enough.

 

[Derek Flint]

BTW Bro, I'm not trying to criticize you or show you up. I'm just trying to pass along some of the things I've learned over the last several years.

 

[realsmoothie]

Geez, overreact, everyone. It's buying a necklace or cowboy hat, not spending hours and hours practicing some absurd pattern.

If it's part of your personality, I don't see why wearing something out of the ordinary is a big deal.

I have this shirt, sort of cowboy style, that is white with all sorts of blue flowers over it. Pretty tight, too. Definitely not a "masculine" look. Add to this that I am thin and faily well kept, so when I wear this shirt I've definitely got a "metro" thing going on.

And you know what? I get comments on it all the time. Usually it's from older women who obviously aren't flirting... but at least once or twice a day at work a cute girl will say they like it too. It's definitely a conversation opener.

 

[Derek Flint]

There's a big difference between a necklace, and dressing like a clown like some guys do. (Not anyone in this thread)

Too many guys are going out there looking ridiculous, and thinking that external things like that are helping them, when in the long run, it's stunting their growth.

And, many guys Peacock to get approached and to get validation from women, which again are not what one wants.

The Man should do the approaching, and the Man shouldn't seek validation from women or from anyone else.

When someone develops their inner game, they'll lose the desire for tricks, tactics, techniques, peacocking, TD's 25 points, and all that other lame stuff.

There are plenty of naturals out there who get laid like rock stars without all the ridiculous crap.

Their secret?

They're Men.

Being and adult male doesn't necessarily make one a Man.

Work on your inner game, your inner self, and watch how fast everything else falls into place, and not just with women either.

A Peacocked AFC is still an AFC

 

[blinkwatt]

and as I was walking to buy some lunch I walked by a bunch of dudes… and they started to laugh at my hat cause I was wearing a cowboy hat and a really nice suit.

Laughing at another person clothing style/appearance is something AFCs do.
Think about it for a moment,I will share an expierence with you;
I used to laugh at all those "emo" guys with their shirts and pants that are more tight then women's clothing...Then I thought to myself,who am I to laugh at them,IT'S WHAT MAKES THEM HAPPY SO I SHOULD BE HAPPY FOR THEM.

 

[three12]

Mr. Flint. You're a MOSTLY wise man.

I'm with you so f*cking much on the inner game issue. Its easily the most important facet of PU.

BUT I peacock..... to a degree.... I just bought some pretty bright blue shoes, I tend to wear tight jeans, tight t-shirts, leather jackets, leather wrist bands/watch, crappy beaded necklace... Its peacocky things. But its also me. Moreso, who I've become.

I enjoy wearing that stuff. SOMETIMES (its rare) i'll get comments on things.. But I enjoy standing out..

I'm attention *****. What can I say.

It doesn't mean I lack inner game.

The two aren't exclusive.

three12.

 

[Obsidian]

Pragmatically speaking, I think even using cheap gimics can make you more successful -- whether you are a true DJ or not. Therefore, it can be useful to employ gimics even if you lack inner game. A DJ should not shy away from anything that brings success.

The more girls you pick up using gimics, the more experience you gain, and the more your inner game grows.

 

[Derek Flint]

Fair enough.

Yes, you can have tight inner game and still peacock, but why peacock?

Mystery pursues women more for validation more than sex, and he is a depressed individual.

No matter how much attention and validation he gets from them, it's never enough, and he'll never stop seeking it.

Are you peacocking for attention and for validation from women?

If so, why do you need attention and validation from women or from anyone?

Again, when one's inner game is fixed, they lose the need for gimmicks.

And they lose the need for validation from people, including women.

IMO, peacocking is a gimmick.

And for too many, peacocking, like canned routines, techniques, tricks, cold reads etc... are crutches.

ANd when I talk about peacocking, I'm talking about the guys that wear the fuzzy top hats. The New Rock boots. The Puffy Pirate shirts. The scrolling LED belt buckles. Mascara. Painted fingernails.

That kind of stuff.

And they do it because they crave attention. They crave validation.

Because deep down, they are insecure.

Mr. Flint. You're a MOSTLY wise man.

I'm with you so f*cking much on the inner game issue. Its easily the most important facet of PU.

BUT I peacock..... to a degree.... I just bought some pretty bright blue shoes, I tend to wear tight jeans, tight t-shirts, leather jackets, leather wrist bands/watch, crappy beaded necklace... Its peacocky things. But its also me. Moreso, who I've become.

I enjoy wearing that stuff. SOMETIMES (its rare) i'll get comments on things.. But I enjoy standing out..

I'm attention *****. What can I say.

It doesn't mean I lack inner game.

The two aren't exclusive.

three12.

 

[Derek Flint]

Pragmatically speaking, I think even using cheap gimics can make you more successful -- whether you are a true DJ or not. Therefore, it can be useful to employ gimics even if you lack inner game. A DJ should not shy away from anything that brings success.

The more girls you pick up using gimics, the more experience you gain, and the more your inner game grows.

I disagree - these things will actually stunt your growth because too many people substitute them for developing real game.

Gimmicks are crutches.

After all, a Peacocked AFC is still an AFC underneath all the clothes and gimmicks.

Strip them away and what do you have?

 

[Obsidian]

Well, I'm just saying that it's fully possible to do both. There isn't necessarily any cost in using a gimmick. Moreover, there is a potential benefit. Therefore, because there is a potential benefit and no cost, logic would dictate that you should use it. You just have to keep a proper perspective.

It is as tho you are saying that real warriors should not use weapons because weapons are a crutch. A fighter with true skill or strength does not need weapons. If you rely on holding a weapon instead of developing fighting skill or working out, you will still be relatively powerless much of the time. Nonetheless, weapons are still useful for warriors.

I can respect your philosophy, tho. It's certainly better than the other extreme: relying solely on gimmicks.

However, I personally think neg hits are gold.

 

[cyp6]

If I may,

A proper analogy for this situation could be looking at it like a bicycle, or better yet a surf board...

Once you have masterd the long board you may move on to shorter more agile board that is more difficult to controle, but because you have the experince of the long board you can adapt to the difficulties of the shorter(cooler i might add) board with ease...

in regards to mystery...

he has validation issues because of his childhood not because he peacocks, If you are like me, you read the 'game' and was distrubed by the seeminly DJ types who gamed women just for the sexual validation and exceptence from them, however i do not belive that this is caused by learning to become a Dj no matter how you do it weather it be using gimics, tranforming in to a magician, learning to become a natural, or becoming a real man an alpha.

like most phycological proplems, most are deveopled from early child hood trough adolenced ~ FROID. but then again i may be wrong, phycolgy is like most things in life, the more you learn the, the more you realize how little you know.

 

[Derek Flint]

Well, I'm just saying that it's fully possible to do both. There isn't necessarily any cost in using a gimmick. Moreover, there is a potential benefit. Therefore, because there is a potential benefit and no cost, logic would dictate that you should use it. You just have to keep a proper perspective.

It is as tho you are saying that real warriors should not use weapons because weapons are a crutch. A fighter with true skill or strength does not need weapons. If you rely on holding a weapon instead of developing fighting skill or working out, you will still be relatively powerless much of the time. Nonetheless, weapons are still useful for warriors.

I can respect your philosophy, tho. It's certainly better than the other extreme: relying solely on gimmicks.

However, I personally think neg hits are gold.

The purpose of Neg hits is to bring her down off of her pedestal.

If you have to bring her down, that subcommunicates that she is above you, that she has higher value than you.

And women can sense that.

Those who truly have higher value don't have to show it with gimmicks like negs.

I don't buy into your weapons analogy, as it doesn't transfer over to PU

And there is a cost to using gimmicks - to many people become dependent on them, instead of developing their natural skills.

Yes, you can do both, but why?

When someone develops their inner game, they no longer need gimmicks.

Ever read Tyler Durden's 25 points that has to do with how to walk, talk etc...?

Well, when someone gets their inner game together, those 25 points take care of themselves.

I would rather spend my time developing real game so those 25 points become internalized and a natural part of me, instead of practicing and memorizing those 25 points and faking them.

Using someone else's routines and tactics - is that what being a DJ is about?

Or is it about being the type of guy that women will naturally gravitate towards based on his personality and not some external gimmicks?

 

[Derek Flint]

If I may,

A proper analogy for this situation could be looking at it like a bicycle, or better yet a surf board...

Once you have masterd the long board you may move on to shorter more agile board that is more difficult to controle, but because you have the experince of the long board you can adapt to the difficulties of the shorter(cooler i might add) board with ease...

in regards to mystery...

he has validation issues because of his childhood not because he peacocks, If you are like me, you read the 'game' and was distrubed by the seeminly DJ types who gamed women just for the sexual validation and exceptence from them, however i do not belive that this is caused by learning to become a Dj no matter how you do it weather it be using gimics, tranforming in to a magician, learning to become a natural, or becoming a real man an alpha.

like most phycological proplems, most are deveopled from early child hood trough adolenced ~ FROID. but then again i may be wrong, phycolgy is like most things in life, the more you learn the, the more you realize how little you know.

Mystery peacocks because of validation and acceptance issues.

He craves attention and validation from women, but no matter how much he gets, it's never going to be enough.

By Peacocking, it brings him attention. And that's why most guys Peacock - for attention and validation.

If someone is peacocking, then they are seeking attention and validation from women.

Then they must ask themselves why? Why do they need validation from women, or from anyone for that matter?

That is what it boils down to.