"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Only as loyal as your options

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This thread is related to the one i just posted. I was out at a bar with sum friends. I struck up a convo with a bunch of gorgeous chicks, all in their mid 20's. They stated that mens greatest weakness was that they want to have sex with every attractive chick. They state that cheating with their hot female friends was one of the main reasons that they fear men.

I could def relate to them. Even though i have a girlfriend i still am constantly looking for a hotter girl to do. I go out and hit on hot chicks like im still single. I feel like every man that has options has to fight hard with this feeling. Look at guys like Clinton, Tiger, Hugh Downs. Tiger and Hugh both had smokin hot chicks at home. But its that instinct in us that destroys us.
Are guys only as loyal as their options and is it ok to try to sexually conquer attractive women, even when in a relationship. If it is ok, why cant women do the same. Is what i am feeling normal, can yall relate.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Pandora said:
If it is ok, why cant women do the same.
The consequences to the individuals and to society aren't the same.
 

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WCS - Men get diseases, women get fatherless children. Men pay for drugs from thier own pocket. Everybody in the U.S. pays for fatherless children. The list goes on...
 

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I can definitely relate. I ended my last (7 year) relationship for this very reason. I was doing exactly what you were doing.

The thing is I knew I would feel guilty if I cheated on her. Now, intellectually I don't think it's wrong for a guy to have the occasional dalliance but still I knew I would have felt guilty. So I split up with her.

I think it was probably the right thing to do. I still miss her a lot. But when you've got that impulse to pursue other women (actually in my case I even wanted to pursue objectively less hot women just for the variety) I don't think it's possible to feel contented. You'll feel like you are being held back or suffocated.

My own view is that you should probably dump your girlfriend and chase these women. And I don't agree with the posters that talk about having to settle if your own market value is low. If your confidence and game is good enough you can get a 9 even if you're a 6 looks wise, even if you're not loaded. We've all seen guys with girls and thought, 'What the hell is she doing with him?!'
 

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This is the key to any relationship at the core. Simply, stay your partners best option. Chris Rock said it best, a man is only as faithful as his options. Same with women.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

Read more...

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Pandora said:
If it is ok, why cant women do the same. Is what i am feeling normal, can yall relate.
They do, it's called Hypergamy. Trust me, for every hot girl you contemplate banging, there's a Man she thinks is a better long term option than you.
 

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In a society where sexuality is no longer taboo or reigned in by religion, a successful marriage cannot be founded on sexual exclusivity alone.

This is an American fallacy, the idea that "everyone is subject to a moral code but me". A man will go out and sleep around on his wife for years, but the day he catches her in bed with another man, it's total outrage.

For this reason, moral obligation cannot secure a successful marriage in postmodern Western society. There has to be something more there. Organized religion and a shared moral code used to be that "something more"...now we've rejected that as a society. Something needs to take its place on a more personal level that you and a woman can share. And bodily fluids just doesn't cut it.

Ubi caritas et amor, Deus ibi est.
 
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