"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Online Dating Sites?

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OK guys, I am new here. Going through a divorce after a 21 year marriage. Was thinking of going MGTOW for a while, but f*ck that. She is having her fun so why should I sit home, right?

I've been browsing some of the online dating sites and I'm curious to the opinions of anyone that has had any experience with these sites. It seems to me that many of the women in the age group that I am searching (35-48 yr. olds - I am 45) are all looking for husbands, princes or both...

Also, how reliable are the photos and the information provided...

Thanks...
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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My experience with OLD, if her profile consists of,

Link to her instagram or snachat= Attention *****, most likely will never meet up.
Penpals need not apply= good chance of meeting up if you dont say anything stupid.
Photos taken from above or just pics of her face/no body shots= overweight
Looking for someone who is financially stable= gold digger
Been to over 30 countries blah blah blah= attention *****, look at me and all the places I have visted! high chance of flaking.
 

Poonstra

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I've been browsing some of the online dating sites and I'm curious to the opinions of anyone that has had any experience with these sites.
They pretty much all suck. Ask for a date pretty soon in the conversation. If she wants to chat longer to get to know each other she uses you for validation. Move on to the next girl. If she declines move on to the next girl. Be prepared to experience a lot of this.
 

Masculinity

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OK guys, I am new here. Going through a divorce after a 21 year marriage. Was thinking of going MGTOW for a while, but f*ck that. She is having her fun so why should I sit home, right?

I've been browsing some of the online dating sites and I'm curious to the opinions of anyone that has had any experience with these sites. It seems to me that many of the women in the age group that I am searching (35-48 yr. olds - I am 45) are all looking for husbands, princes or both...

Also, how reliable are the photos and the information provided...

Thanks...
Women are done with the c0ck carrousel at those ages and they're looking for a beta provider to support them financially. That's the last thing you want to do right after a divorce (unless you're LOOKING for pain).

Why not bang some younger women?
 

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Women are done with the c0ck carrousel at those ages and they're looking for a beta provider to support them financially. That's the last thing you want to do right after a divorce (unless you're LOOKING for pain).

Why not bang some younger women?
Hey, brother.

You're right, at 45 y/old the LAST thing, let me re-phase that, I will never settle down and get married again. My issue is that I have been out of the game for 21 years and had let myself go. December 1st, 2017 I was 248. I'm 5'8. I've been strict on my eating and hitting the gym since 12/1. I woke up this morning at 206. Progress, yes, but a long way to go.

All that said, I am newly red-pilled and a rookie at having game. I have been reading blogs and books like crazy. Last night, I did my 1st cold approach at the gym. A girl and I were exchanging eye contact throughout the night. As I was ready to leave the gym, I remembered a quote from this site. "Rejection is better than regret" I approached and had a brief conversation. Needless to say, I f*cked it up because within 2 minutes, I straight asked if she had a boyfriend, to which she replied, "I'm talking to someone but he's not my boyfriend." This threw me off and I pretty much ended the conversation at that point. In retrospect, I think I could have pushed through that and got her number, but I didn't because I was nervous and didn't know what to say. She was 25.

Even though I didn't get the desired result, just making the approach was huge for me. (1st one in 21 years)

Any advice?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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OK guys, I am new here. Going through a divorce after a 21 year marriage. Was thinking of going MGTOW for a while, but f*ck that. She is having her fun so why should I sit home, right?

I've been browsing some of the online dating sites and I'm curious to the opinions of anyone that has had any experience with these sites. It seems to me that many of the women in the age group that I am searching (35-48 yr. olds - I am 45) are all looking for husbands, princes or both...

Also, how reliable are the photos and the information provided...

Thanks...
Set your profile age younger.....say 38......that way you can still search women in their mid to late 20s.

Have good pics. Give off a good vibe, yet keep your messages short. Have an outcome indifferent mindset (if I go out with her great, if not great).

Be charismatic yet not too talkative so that you remain somewhat mysterious.

Have conversations, not interviews.

Last but not least, once you get into a decent convo with a chick that interests you, get to the point BEFORE the convo gets boring through messaging on the site. "Hey I have to run but I'd like to keep the convo with you going. Let's meet for drinks at such and such place Thursday evening". This way you build a little rapport but get to what matters which is meeting up and not wasting time endlessly messaging women on there.
 

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Hey, brother.

You're right, at 45 y/old the LAST thing, let me re-phase that, I will never settle down and get married again. My issue is that I have been out of the game for 21 years and had let myself go. December 1st, 2017 I was 248. I'm 5'8. I've been strict on my eating and hitting the gym since 12/1. I woke up this morning at 206. Progress, yes, but a long way to go.

All that said, I am newly red-pilled and a rookie at having game. I have been reading blogs and books like crazy. Last night, I did my 1st cold approach at the gym. A girl and I were exchanging eye contact throughout the night. As I was ready to leave the gym, I remembered a quote from this site. "Rejection is better than regret" I approached and had a brief conversation. Needless to say, I f*cked it up because within 2 minutes, I straight asked if she had a boyfriend, to which she replied, "I'm talking to someone but he's not my boyfriend." This threw me off and I pretty much ended the conversation at that point. In retrospect, I think I could have pushed through that and got her number, but I didn't because I was nervous and didn't know what to say. She was 25.

Even though I didn't get the desired result, just making the approach was huge for me. (1st one in 21 years)

Any advice?
1. Holly smokes, that is a lot of weight. Well done.
2. Props on approaching the girl at the gym. You didn't f*ck up; you're getting back in the game. "I'm talking to someone but he's not my boyfriend" could mean "I'm available" depending on her non-verbals and tone. Heck, there are a lot of guys in this forum whom are all talk but no walk. Give yourself some credit. You'll see her again. Build on the rapport you had and get her number next time.

3. Here's a thread on how I'm gaining muscle and losing fat:
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/starting-a-plant-based-lifestyle.241393/

4. Must read book:
https://www.amazon.com/Rational-Mal...preST=_SY291_BO1,204,203,200_QL40_&dpSrc=srch

5. This book is about all the sh*t women do to mess with your head. Learn the moves. Interestingly, they respond well to their own medicine ; ]
https://www.amazon.com/All-Rules-Time-tested-Secrets-Capturing/dp/0446618799
 
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