nice guys only finish last with hot girls.

[devilkingx2]

it occurs to me that most nice guys could solve all their problems by finding an average or below girl and being nice to them, they won't be surrounded by beta orbiters and thus you may actually get laid without having to be alpha at all.

 

[Jair213]

LOL

Interesting.

But wouldnt you want to be with someone your atleast atracted too?

 

[doctorj]

aside from average to below average girls having lower standards, they don't have much of a choice which is why they'll have to settle with whoever comes their way too

 

[pinkfl]

The reason why nice guys finish last is because that's all they are. They have nothing else to offer except "being nice".
Women do not really care about someone "being nice" to them. People are nice to women fifty times a day. That's not going to make you special. And if all you can do is list things you are not, for example: "I'm not racist! I am not a criminal! I've never hit a woman", then again, you're not special. Thousands of people also are not racist, thieving misogynists.

Women (and society) care about what you have done and what you can do. If you are handy around the house or a vehicle, that already makes you better than your average nice guy. An employer isn't going to hire you to be nice, he/she will hire you if you have other qualities to get the job done.

So...in conclusion, if all you have going for you is that you are "nice" then you need more life skills, because being nice is the bare minimum to be tolerable in society. Can you hold a conversation? Are you fun to be around? Have you done anything interesting lately? Have you pursued a hobby?

I'm saying this for your own good. No, I don't know you, but I firmly believe that well rounded people deserve to get what they work hard to get. Go for whoever you are attracted to, that is fun to be around, and interesting to talk to. If you say "Gee, I need a person with low standards, because my low self esteem really cannot handle anyone with decent self esteem" then you have a lot of growing up to do.

 

[PlayHer Man]

Women are attracted to men who actually act like men. Nice guys act like women.. so they are not seen in a sexual context as a result.

Ugly women generally take what they can get.. BUT even the fatties and ugos will prefer a masculine loser over a passive, emotional, "NICE" loser.

The problem with nice guys is they let everyone run over them. If they can't stand up for themselves.. that means they can't stand up for her either. Women want men who are stronger / tougher than them.

 

[casaanova]

You realize average and below average women are some of the worst ones, right?

 

[Sideways]

Well said pinkfl. If you think to yourself that being nice is one of your top 5 qualities then you really don't have much to offer hence you have nothing a high value girl will be interested in. This is why developing skills and hobbies are so important, they build confidence as well as making you an interesting person who has some depth to them.

This is whats attractive in a man. If all you're bringing to the table is that you're a nice guy you really aren't bringing anything. It should be a given that you have strong morals, good values and know how to treat all people, not just women, right.

So instead of settling for a low value girl because you're too lazy to go out and better yourself through hard work get a hobby, go to the gym, go out with your friends, anything that allows you develop a life of your own that a woman would actually want to be a part of.

 

[Bokanovsky]

Women do not really care about someone "being nice" to them. People are nice to women fifty times a day. That's not going to make you special.

This is what it really boils down. In many non-western societies, being nice to a woman actually would make you special because men there do not make it a habit of being nice to women by default. In North America and other western countries, it's the other way around. Men being nice and polite to women is the rule, not the exception. Western men are collectively shooting themselves in the foot with their idiotic "gentlemanly" attitude. It accomplishes nothing other than giving women a sense of entitlement and inflating their egos.

 

[yyc12]

TCan you hold a conversation? Are you fun to be around? Have you done anything interesting lately? Have you pursued a hobby?

You do realize that 90% of women can't even answer yes to any of those..right??

 

[Alvafe]

You do realize that 90% of women can't even answer yes to any of those..right??

and that is why you screen woman, if she can do nothing good outside of the bed, why you want to do anything else with her if not in bed? and even so most really hot ones are pretty basic in bed,

(last month I could prove that really hot one wanted only the basic in bed, last week nota s hot but in bed well that was a nice work out )

so learn this woman who can't do anything to help you should be dealt teh same fashion only call when she can solve your balls problems anything more, she will have to really work on that

 

[mike465]

I've often thought this tbh

They don't even have to be particularly non good looking, just not 7.5 or above. People say I'm quite good looking so when I'm feeling like an experiment or not putting too much effort in the worse looking girls are extremely glad of the attention.

Good for if you're bored, worth doing.

 

[devilkingx2]

hey pinky, you're about to get #REKT

The reason why nice guys finish last is because that's all they are. They have nothing else to offer except "being nice".
Women do not really care about someone "being nice" to them. People are nice to women fifty times a day. That's not going to make you special. And if all you can do is list things you are not, for example: "I'm not racist! I am not a criminal! I've never hit a woman", then again, you're not special. Thousands of people also are not racist, thieving misogynists.

Women (and society) care about what you have done and what you can do. If you are handy around the house or a vehicle, that already makes you better than your average nice guy. An employer isn't going to hire you to be nice, he/she will hire you if you have other qualities to get the job done.

So...in conclusion, if all you have going for you is that you are "nice" then you need more life skills, because being nice is the bare minimum to be tolerable in society.

so all women are incredibly shallow and being that whole treating women right thing they've been pushing on us was a waste of time because they'll care more about your wallet than the fact that arguments with you don't end in bloodshed? wow, you're really selling me this product.

there's nothing better than a woman who'll only want you for things that you could either lose in the future or that she could likely find someone with more of.

Can you hold a conversation?

I can have a conversation with anyone about anything, there is a reason that I don't like quiet/shy people, its because litterally the only thing I can't deal with is someone who barely responds to what I say(it doesn't matter what they say, positive or negative, as long as they say or do something)

Are you fun to be around?

so me and my friends were sitting on the bleachers in gym class a couple months ago, it was that point of the year where the teacher stops caring what you do, and none of us wanted to play volleyball,

we were watching this game, the class had like 100 people in it and there were like 30 people in this one game, 20 on one side 10 on the other

(this will require you to have seen the avengers movie... but you've already seen it because everyone has already seen it)

the side with 10 had this older black girl(hey I'm black too, not racist.) and she weighed like 300+ pounds

my friend says to me and my other friend, pointing to the side with 20 "they have an ARMY"(yes he emphasized army)

and I turn to them and reply pointing to the aforementioned fat chick "they have a hulk"

everyone in earshot burst out laughing, my friend said it was the best thing I'd ever said

what does that tell you?

Have you done anything interesting lately? Have you pursued a hobby?

ATM I'm preparing to enter 3 different competitions, the 7hFPS, the 7dfps and the ludum dare #27

http://7dfps.org/
http://www.ludumdare.com/

to do this I need to refresh my ability to program using this language:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C_Sharp_(programming_language)

you were saying?

I'm saying this for your own good. No, I don't know you, but I firmly believe that well rounded people deserve to get what they work hard to get. Go for whoever you are attracted to, that is fun to be around, and interesting to talk to. If you say "Gee, I need a person with low standards, because my low self esteem really cannot handle anyone with decent self esteem" then you have a lot of growing up to do.

I'm not even a nice guy, I never was, never will be, the betaest I've ever been was walking a girl home from school everyday for a school year and never getting so much as a kiss out of it,

no heartbreak, no moneyloss, no embarassment and shame.

this was just a thread of something that came to mind

FYI I've always thought the perfect girl would be hot with low self-esteem, because she'd have the attitude of a HB3(pleasing you because she's replaceable and you're.... not) but the body of a HB9

This is what it really boils down. In many non-western societies, being nice to a woman actually would make you special because men there do not make it a habit of being nice to women by default. In North America and other western countries, it's the other way around. Men being nice and polite to women is the rule, not the exception. Western men are collectively shooting themselves in the foot with their idiotic "gentlemanly" attitude. It accomplishes nothing other than giving women a sense of entitlement and inflating their egos.

that's the point of this thread, to point out that a less attractive girl isn't used to being treated super super well by everyone so you won't just be a beta orbiter

 

[devilkingx2]

Well said pinkfl. If you think to yourself that being nice is one of your top 5 qualities then you really don't have much to offer hence you have nothing a high value girl will be interested in. This is why developing skills and hobbies are so important, they build confidence as well as making you an interesting person who has some depth to them.

This is whats attractive in a man. If all you're bringing to the table is that you're a nice guy you really aren't bringing anything. It should be a given that you have strong morals, good values and know how to treat all people, not just women, right.

So instead of settling for a low value girl because you're too lazy to go out and better yourself through hard work get a hobby, go to the gym, go out with your friends, anything that allows you develop a life of your own that a woman would actually want to be a part of.

seriously, I am one of the funniest non-professionals you'll ever meet, and my intelligence is boundless

you name me someone else who hasn't yet gone to college and can not only program but who knows almost enough engineering to build his own robot(and built his own robot with some help for a 75 in a 9th grade class(engineering))

I also think that I'm quite good looking.

 

[Bokanovsky]

that's the point of this thread, to point out that a less attractive girl isn't used to being treated super super well by everyone so you won't just be a beta orbiter

Yeah, but what's the point of banging ugly chicks?

 

[devilkingx2]

Yeah, but what's the point of banging ugly chicks?

she doesn't have to be ugly...

well, it depends

if your mind is a dichotomy where everyone is either too ugly to look at or hot enough to fantasize about then yeah she does

if there's a middle ground then go for that

note this post was mostly a theory about nice guys.

if you're already alpha as **** its not very helpful because you CAN bang HB9's and 10's

(just got an idea for a new thread that is tangentally related to this one)

 

[Zarky]

OP, if you find a dead girl you can bang her and not have to use any game whatsoever. No opening, no comfort building, no isolating, no closing, no LMR. Real simple.

Something to think about.