"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

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You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

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Newbie needing some advice on reading some mixed signals

phage

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Hey guys, I'm just looking for a little advice about a specific incident (I've had a serious, sexual relationship before, so I'm not completely inexperienced).

I'm a college freshmen, and have recently met a pretty attractive girl. Cute, shy, asian chick who I met through another guy who likes her. Anyways, after we (myself, some friends, and her) played some games, monopoly, card games, etc. we were going to Wendy's for an 11 PM snack, and she didn't want to come along, and went back to her room.

Later that evening, we chat on facebook, and she claims she was afraid I might be a reckless driver (she later fessed it was just that Wendy's was unhealthy and she was tired). Anyways, playing along with her joke, I ask her how I could prove I'm not a reckless driver, and she said I should shave my hair off.

Now, I have pretty good hair for a guy. It's a little long (above shoulders), but it's well maintained, dark, straight, and is usually something I am complimented for from both genders. Playing along with this shaving thing, we continue talking about my hair. She eventually says I should shave it off because it's girlish, but then proceeds to say that it's quite "luscious and makes me want to run my fingers through it".

As the conversation progressed, she continued alternating between saying my hair is girlish, but then admitted she was jealous of it, saying that my hair is "tempting" to people, and hers was nothing like it...

I tried to assure her that her hair is just as good ("hey, your hair is pretty great too, silly"), but I'm not sure how she perceived that. She also told me to get a moehawk and dye it later on (I assume this was a joke). The hair conversation ended the note that my hair is fine, and is like my "signature".

Later on, the conversation ended up hitting a snag when I commented on how we have a long weekend up ahead, and asked how she was intending to spend it, where she said mostly sleeping and studying, then noted it was 2 AM and had to sleep, saying we'd talk later.

So, I'm kind of confused. Do you think she possibly finds me attractive? Or is she messing with me/saying nonsense to write me off? In person she's pretty shy, and doesn't talk unless spoken to. I've had a couple direct dialogues, small talk but the group setting doesn't allow for it too much. She makes significant eye contact with me though. I often catch her looking in my direction, and I often look at her. She has called out one other fellow for staring at her, she's never done that to me.

Bulletin Point Summary

- Cute girl tells me to shave hair since it's girlish
- Cute girl then tells me my hair is "luscious" "tempting" and "makes me want to run my fingers through it"
- Cute girl then tells me to get a moehawk and dye it.
- Cute girl eventually says hair is fine, and is like my "signature"
- We make plenty of eye contact, she has called other guys out for staring at her, not me though


Is she just messing with me, or what? You guys think I should try to spend some more time and explore this potential relationship, or move on?

(Just to clarify, I have zero intention to shave my hair off, or turn it into a mohawk. I might get it cut a couple inches, but I was considering this before I even met her)
 

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She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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you should not have complimented her about her hair back. should have played on the jealousy factor. Tell her you would cut it and she could use it as extensions or something lol. also dont ask a girl what she is doing for the weekend, tell her your gonna spend it with her. Why are you asking if she is interested? ask her to hang out and find out.
 

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aaronlava - Alright, I'll wait a day before I message her on facebook again, don't want to make it too constant or anything. Good ideas though

Chromeo - I didn't ask her if she's interested in doing anything this weekend yet, I was considering it. Guess I'll just ask her to hang out on sunday (long weekend and im drinking with friends on saturday, I know for a fact she wont want to come to that)
 

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phage said:
Hey guys, I'm just looking for a little advice about a specific incident (I've had a serious, sexual relationship before, so I'm not completely inexperienced).
mostly irrelevent this comment

I'm a college freshmen, and have recently met a pretty attractive girl. Cute, shy, asian chick who I met through another guy who likes her. Anyways, after we (myself, some friends, and her) played some games, monopoly, card games, etc. we were going to Wendy's for an 11 PM snack, and she didn't want to come along, and went back to her room.
WENDYS??
your in college and you go to a burger bar??
please have a good reason for this...

MONOPLOY??
WTF?? boring..... being good at board games doesnt get girls panites wet!

Later that evening, we chat on facebook, and she claims she was afraid I might be a reckless driver (she later fessed it was just that Wendy's was unhealthy and she was tired). Anyways, playing along with her joke, I ask her how I could prove I'm not a reckless driver, and she said I should shave my hair off.

Now, I have pretty good hair for a guy. It's a little long (above shoulders), but it's well maintained, dark, straight, and is usually something I am complimented for from both genders. Playing along with this shaving thing, we continue talking about my hair. She eventually says I should shave it off because it's girlish, but then proceeds to say that it's quite "luscious and makes me want to run my fingers through it".

As the conversation progressed, she continued alternating between saying my hair is girlish, but then admitted she was jealous of it, saying that my hair is "tempting" to people, and hers was nothing like it...

I tried to assure her that her hair is just as good ("hey, your hair is pretty great too, silly"), but I'm not sure how she perceived that. She also told me to get a moehawk and dye it later on (I assume this was a joke). The hair conversation ended the note that my hair is fine, and is like my "signature".

Later on, the conversation ended up hitting a snag when I commented on how we have a long weekend up ahead, and asked how she was intending to spend it, where she said mostly sleeping and studying, then noted it was 2 AM and had to sleep, saying we'd talk later.

So, I'm kind of confused. Do you think she possibly finds me attractive? Or is she messing with me/saying nonsense to write me off? In person she's pretty shy, and doesn't talk unless spoken to. I've had a couple direct dialogues, small talk but the group setting doesn't allow for it too much. She makes significant eye contact with me though. I often catch her looking in my direction, and I often look at her. She has called out one other fellow for staring at her, she's never done that to me.

Bulletin Point Summary

- Cute girl tells me to shave hair since it's girlish
- Cute girl then tells me my hair is "luscious" "tempting" and "makes me want to run my fingers through it"
- Cute girl then tells me to get a moehawk and dye it.
- Cute girl eventually says hair is fine, and is like my "signature"
- We make plenty of eye contact, she has called other guys out for staring at her, not me though


Is she just messing with me, or what? You guys think I should try to spend some more time and explore this potential relationship, or move on?

(Just to clarify, I have zero intention to shave my hair off, or turn it into a mohawk. I might get it cut a couple inches, but I was considering this before I even met her)
jesus christ do you expect her to tell you what to do next, she has given you NUMEROUS openers for you to 'game' on her and escalate, and yet you did a POOR job at it, she complimented you, joked with you, admired you...keep not doing anything and you'll end up FZing yourself

try not to spend time chatting to potential hotties on FB... eihter be wiht them in person or making them wonder what your doing - mystery + challenge!

get her number, if you will see her soon, get it off her in person then
then a few days later call her up and invite her for/to do XXX on XXX to get her alone,
 

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Why is a girl being jealous of your hair a good thing?

Why would a girl want to have your hair?

Why do you look like a girl?

You need a haircut.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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kingsam

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Ease said:
Why is a girl being jealous of your hair a good thing?

Why would a girl want to have your hair?

Why do you look like a girl?

You need a haircut.
damn ease you shoul know that, she was just joking around with him ... i.e. "flirting"
he was just to dumb or slow to realise it and do anything about it

some people do look good with longer hair (not many)

I THINK THE OP SHOULD POST A link to a PIC OF HIS HAIR for us to give opinions!
 

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A little harsh, but I guess it's all in the spirit of constructive criticism, so it's all still appreciated.

Allow me to justify a couple things:

Wendy's - It's 11 PM and we're (a group of mostly guys) just grabbing a snack. It's a 10 minute drive down the road, what do you expect? Go out to a restaurant? Also want to mention we're freshmen in college, that bizarre middle ground where the only way to get alcohol is to hit up a frat or have a friend who's 21 buy some stuff and sneak it into your dorm.

Monopoly - I didn't plan this at all. I have a friend, who is also interested in her, but is completely hopeless. He invited her and one of her friends (a guy, who is completely FZoned), and since I live down the hall, me as well. Needless to say, he was the one yelled at for staring and I wasn't. Monopoly wasn't my choice, I saw the cute girl, and came along for the ride.
She's also kind of nerdy, and seemed to actually enjoy her self. Different strokes.

Here's an image as requested. Not me looking my best, but it's what's readily available on my computer http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v48/nitnit/coolstorybro.jpg



And yes, I admit I'm messing up continuing the game properly, which is why I'm here for advice
 
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