"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Vanilla

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My last bar experiences haven't been too good. I end up being by myself drinking, which I'm ok with because it's better than staying at home. However that doesn't get me any girls. My main problem is that I don't know what I should do when I first walk in. It seemed that everyone was busy chatting with other people and I didn't know how to get involved in the conversations.

I'm planning to go out tonight and try again, but would like some advice beforehand.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Bring a wingman and just start chatting up a storm. Theres bound to be women who will want to socialize.

That and dont go by yourself. Makes you look lonely.
 

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Lord Shinra said:
Bring a wingman and just start chatting up a storm. Theres bound to be women who will want to socialize.

That and dont go by yourself. Makes you look lonely.
I don't have anyone to go with. Are there any options for going alone?
 

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I wouldn't know, I haven't been brave enough yet to do that. MAybe just try and attach to a group with a common goal and hope for the best.

Going alone, IMO, is a horrendous way of approach because it leaves you exposed and with no backup, sometimes it takes a toll on your confidence.
 

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go to a bar with a live band, that way you have something to look at, eventually somebody will talk to you.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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kdnash82

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Nothing wrong with going out by yourself. I've done it a few times, but never to a place where no one knows me. Basically, I attend a club/bar so much with my friends, when i go alone, it doesn't matter because I'm a familiar face. By the time I actually get in the place, I've been greeted by the security with head of the line priviledges and bartenders by name and in my eyes, this gives me social proof.

Now with that said, there have been a couple of times where I have gone to a bar/club by myself that I've never attended before. I admit, it's hard because you feel out of place, but the key is to just start talking to people. Make sure you don't get vibe that you're the annoying dude, but talk, let people know you're there and you're alive. If you're interesting in what you do and say, they will respond.
 

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screw the social proof, just go in and order a couple of straight shots of whiskey, then ya got some 80 proof.
 

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skirtChaser said:
screw the social proof, just go in and order a couple of straight shots of whiskey, then ya got some 80 proof.
Yeah... cause everyone likes talking to the drunk lonely guy... Tool
 

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yeah getting drunk is a sure way of not getting laid. two drinks helps, three, four drinks makes you sloppy, five drinks and you are going home alone.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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I go out alone A LOT!!! By preference... I have wings and friends that go out all the time too, but I'm telling you, some times you gotta try this stuff alone. It brings out certain areas of the game.

So yes... Go out alone, especially if you have no choice, there is nothing wrong with it.

Rule #1. Don't get drunk!!!! Have a few drinks to loosen up if you must, but don't get drunk. For one its bad for game, and for two what if things went terribly wrong while your drunk? Who would look after you?

Rule #2. Smile and make sure your body language is conveying fun and confidence... You don't want to be seen as a sad loner. You want to be seen as a confident man just enjoying himself.

Rule #3. Make yourself approach somebody, anybody within 2 minutes of walking in the venue... maybe even sooner. Say anything.. Just make sure you're talking to someone and smiling right off, it will set your attitude and frame right... even if its just a dude standing around watching the dancefloor "Hey man, this seems like a pretty chill place!! Wow some hot chicks here tonight!! Is it always like this?"... or even better approach a set right off!!! This would be a million times better...

I could go on and on with rules. Really its no different then normal game if your with someone. Usually when I approach a set and I'm with people I'm basically alone at that moment anyhow.

One advantage to going alone is it is Fvcking DO OR DIE!!!! You either are going to make things happen, be social, approach alot or you will literally be sitting there alone and creepy...Terrible... That thought right there is why I'm so effective alone. I HAVE to make it happen or else its just going to suck... DO OR DIE!!!!!

Get yourself pumped up dude... Its going to be massive when you start really working the club/bar and your alone.. Its tuff. I know I been there. Its hard to motivate yourself.

Just make a fool out of yourself. Let go.. Get rejected and love it... Hell even be creepy in the beginning if that will work... just mush mush mush mother fvcker and have fun... Don't feel stupid until the morning "My god... did i really bark at those poor girls and then dance the macarena for them???" hahaha... Just do it... DO OR DIE!!!

One you have totally blown away all care and embarrassment out of being alone then you will start running tight game.
 
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