"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Need tips for #closing shot girls, bartenders, hosteses, etc

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"hired guns" such as shot girls and beer girls are usually the hottest girls in the clubs, and yet they are teh hardest because they get hit on a lot and they have a huge defense shield up

does anyone know any good methods to get them attracted to you and get a date with one??
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I'm good at that... Social proof is your key. Get them to bring you drinks when you are surrounded by beautiful girls or really cool guys. Get them involved in a convo you are having. Use a lock in prop "You're not a theif are you? Here, you'll look good in this. Bring it back later" Tell her to grab a seat and take a break later on, chat w/ her and then number close her.

Keep in mind they're just girls too... be the exception to the rule and you can close her just like you could any other girl.
Note: See the stickied FR at the top - i # closed the hb waitress at a bar.
 

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Originally posted by syncmaster
I'm good at that... Social proof is your key. Get them to bring you drinks when you are surrounded by beautiful girls or really cool guys. Get them involved in a convo you are having. Use a lock in prop "You're not a theif are you? Here, you'll look good in this. Bring it back later" Tell her to grab a seat and take a break later on, chat w/ her and then number close her.

Keep in mind they're just girls too... be the exception to the rule and you can close her just like you could any other girl.
Note: See the stickied FR at the top - i # closed the hb waitress at a bar.

"lock in prop", i've never heard of that before, thats awesome.

Please post more :) We need more good practical advice like this.


peace
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Originally posted by MasterYoda
what is lock in prop? is it a special "hired guns technique?
Not sure, but I think he means giving the girl some kind of "prop". Like a necklace or a ring or whatever. Say something like this while putting it on her; "This is still mine, and i want it back the next time i see you " or something along those lines. Kinda let her borrow something. Like Style does to the supposedly HB11 in "The Game".
 

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LOCK IN PROP

an object used to hold her attention will lock her in, as a prop this is a desirable object of course.
 

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Syncmaster has it dead on.

At one particular club I go to, I've fu.cked a half Japanese, half Latina waitress, have half a dozen numbers of various other waitresses/shot girls, gone on day2s with a few and made out with some of them.

It's total frame control, don't talk about work, get to know them, and pump up their buying temperature- no one likes to work and you're being the fun, cool guy who's making her night bearable. They all know me and fu.cking love me, give me random hugs & kisses, etc.
 

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Despite me being under 21 and thus having denial of access to nightclubs here in Las Vegas, I can offer a few suggestions since I know quite a bit about the lifestyle.

First off, and this is pretty inevitible, you need connections. I know of people who can get into clubs without being carded and without being charged cover, all because of connections. If they can do those things with connections, then having connections can go a long way in hooking up with shot girls.

Secondly, observe how people hit on these women, and how they get burned down. The key to attracting a girl that get a lot of male attention is to stand out from the crowd. Show her that you are not intimidated, and be sure to use neg-hits a lot. Shot girls get a lot of compliments, so it will come as a suprise to them if you neg-hit them. Stand out, and do things differently than the many other guys that try to get a lay with them.

That is pretty much all I can say. This is difficult, but with right technique it can be as easy as picking up an average chick.
 

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A lock in prop is basically an object of small value that has a tie w/ you. Ie: a glow up necklace or a stupid hat or something that she can run back and show her girlie waitress friends and giggle about.

You can easily number close girls in clubs that aren't hired guns because you just need to control the set. When you're working hired guns you need to control the whole facking club!

As far as building contacts - its easy. Be sociable. Talk to the bouncers, get their names and REMEMBER THEM! Greet them by their names and ask how their night is going. Get to know the waitresses and the bartenders. Tip well. Once you've established contact there and you're a regular ask about a guest list. Get your name put on a guest list. I've made friends w/ a few club owners in town and bouncers. I don't wait in line - I have ****ty id but they don't care. I've gotten into vip lounges fairly easily. Just be the cool guy that everybody likes to hang out with and actually care what people have to say. These bouncers stand outside for hours on end each night rejecting idiots and get yelled at all the time. Its a ****ty job. Offer to grab him a beer if you can or a glass of water if you can't. Talk to him for 5 mins and remember his name - - you'll be on the VIP list forever.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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