"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

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frivolousz21

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ok...I havent had one of these in a while.

I know she has High IL in me..we have only been together for 4 days...dating for 3 and half weeks.

I have done everythign I can to this point to show her the best of me....she thinks im great and all that.

I want to show her how I feel and this and that..but how? I mean I know what Afc is..and I know what being a man is.

how do I show her my emotions without over doing it or looking needy.

I have to keep my head above the water when my emotions are flying high like this..I never looked for this, asked for this, or ever thought this was going to happen to me now..but I want to do the best I can to make it grow and continue what im doing.


any suggestions???
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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patience patience patience

You do this by not trying to "show" her your emotions. What is the point in that, when it's obvious she likes you how you are now. Keep doing what you are doing, and let nature take it's course. You have initiated, and she has responded, so now enjoy.

"If it aint broke don't fix it"
 

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Relax...this isn't a LTR yet. It's only been a month. Cool your jets, relax and enjoy the good feelings your having. You don't need to share them or make any grand (or otherwise) gestures. Just have fun, relax and go with the flow. If you're still involved with this girl in 6 months then you can consider it a LTR if things are still going good.
 

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I want to show her how I feel and this and that..but how?
You have to show her with your body language. Kino is a good way to tell her that you find her attractive. Also, if you move things to a more sexual level (ie kissing her other places than her lips) will let her know how you feel about her.

One thing to keep in mind is you've only been with this girl for 3 weeks. That's less than a month. A good time to fully establish a LTR is after 2 months. It's enough time to know that she may just stick around for a while. At this point, she could ditch you next week for all you know. Just because a woman's IL is high, it doesn't mean it'll stay high for a long period of time. It can move high and low at times. If she suddenly hits a lower point in her IL, she *may* lose interest. If the two of you have been together for some time, she may experience points of lower IL but knows that it's only temporary. Some women need that rush of high IL to last forever, while others will be able to deal with it rising and lowering at times.

I have to keep my head above the water when my emotions are flying high like this.
That's why you should be dating more than one woman at a time. It helps keep things in check. Developing an emotional attachment early in a relationship will increase the risk of experiencing an emotional disaster.
 

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Two months is still too early. You can't know if it's going to be a LTR until after the infatuation stage subsides some and the reality of things set in. When both people start to get comfortable and relax a bit you can get a better idea if the involvement is worth investing your time and effort into. That typically takes around 6 months.
 

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You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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just do what u feel...nobody else can tell u what its too early for... u can't put a timeline on relationships... go with ya instinct
 

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I agree we are definitely in the infactuation stage.and I need to pull the stirups on the horses back.

as for Kino..we have had sex...we are very physical everytime we are together..public or private.

except at dinner..but even then there was touching.

its almost like the fast infactuation you get when ur a teenager.

she is 25

I am 22.

I know I should date others but I wont..but I will always flirt and talk to others to keep my head on diff things.

I can see everyones points..I say LTR..because we have extablished that we wont see anyone else..but didnt really talk about..just really flow together.

I saw her last night...

I wont see her tonight..im going out with my friends.

tomrorow the NCAA tourney starts..i will watch Illinois play

but more importantly I will set a precidant that I am going to have my own life. Like I have now.

I am very very good at created attraction..I find it funny....I am/was worried about the long run.

thanks for the suggestions
 

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Originally posted by pimpin_since_85
just do what u feel...nobody else can tell u what its too early for... u can't put a timeline on relationships... go with ya instinct

I'm with you on this one..Everyone says wait to at least such and such time before showing some real emotions-I say do what you feel in your heart-don't look to the counsel of others so much when its you that has to live with the consequences. Its your life so take some chances-learn to mess up-laugh at your mistakes. Now don't start telling the girl that you love her and don't buy her a dozen roses-just spend time with her-be with her-When she looks into you eyes she will be able to tell how sincere you are...

Go For IT MAN! Good Luck!
 

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just do what u feel...nobody else can tell u what its too early for... u can't put a timeline on relationships... go with ya instinct
that is true pimpn.....but I do like there overall concept to SLOW things down...obviously im not telling her that..but I can do that on my own.
 

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Two months is still too early. You can't know if it's going to be a LTR until after the infatuation stage subsides some and the reality of things set in. When both people start to get comfortable and relax a bit you can get a better idea if the involvement is worth investing your time and effort into. That typically takes around 6 months.
I understand and agree with this.

but that is boring..and that takes a lot of time..I am not patient in that regard. Plus that doesnt always hold true...

and most people dont take it easy for that long..infact no one does unless they either dont have a high IL in someone..or they are that fycking busy with everything else.

and life is all an expierement and investment...I am getting out now what I put in...If I lose this girl in 6 months..im sure 6 months of sex, fun, and laughs..is worth it..even if it ends then..there is always another girl under the sun :)
 

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I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

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