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Need help coping, post-breakup with a borderline personality disorder (BPD) woman

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I wasted three years of my life with a woman that I did not realize had all the traits of BPD until a few months after the breakup. I want my life back. I lost my job because I let my personal problems caused by this toxic relationship get in the way of my work. I let this woman suck the life out of me. I've started seeing other women and have gotten laid, but I still feel empty inside and depressed. I do not talk to my ex and have gone no contact with her since the breakup. I'm ashamed of myself for putting myself in this position and handing my balls to her. All the signs were there in the beginning, but I chose to ignore them, thinking things would get better. I know if I was in a normal state I would have never put up with the crap this woman put me through.

How do you recover from something like this?
 

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I would say read the DJ Bible but it's unlikely you'd do it.

So the easier path for you is read all the threads started by POOK.

Go search his name and read his postings.
 

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I would say read the DJ Bible but it's unlikely you'd do it.

So the easier path for you is read all the threads started by POOK.

Go search his name and read his postings.
Thanks, I have been reading the DJ Bible and threads by POOK.
 

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You'll do fine then.

It's all solid stuff. Read it and re read it again until it's etched into every fiber of ur brain cells.

Once ur old frame is demolished and you acquired a new set of frame which is stronger and every growing, you'll be in a much better position to achieve ur goals.

Good luck and if you've reached a stumbling block along the way, ask, plenty of people will actually respond and assist you.

Edit: FYI, reading the DJ Bible is the path towards recovery that you seek.
 

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well friend, u just didnt know that this is a new beginning for you ,congratulations .. when you breakup with a bpd person all your past childhood traumas will come to surface, thats why u felt empty because your body want it to be resolved.. dont get laid dont buy new car or house as a coping... first what u need to do is resolve it..

here's the links to help you do it....
http://www.sharischreiber.com/needlove.html

afterwards read other articles too in that site

when youve succeed doing this your life would be a huge difference even better before u met your bpd.

congratulations again.
 

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well friend, u just didnt know that this is a new beginning for you ,congratulations .. when you breakup with a bpd person all your past childhood traumas will come to surface, thats why u felt empty because your body want it to be resolved.. dont get laid dont buy new car or house as a coping... first what u need to do is resolve it..

here's the links to help you do it....
http://www.sharischreiber.com/needlove.html

afterwards read other articles too in that site

when youve succeed doing this your life would be a huge difference even better before u met your bpd.

congratulations again.

Can confirm. 3 years on and doing great!! You are where I was 3 years ago. It does get better. Find a councillor would be my advice too. I guarantee you have a Pandoras box of issues that you aren' even aware of. Oh and find a Male could councillor who specialises in mens issues. £40-50 ph in uk.. Good Luck!
 

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It is not only BPD women, after 3 years (or sometimes way more), she was so interwoven in all the aspects of your life that it is almost impossible to eliminate her influences. So accept that. She may always be part of who you are, but the difference will be on how you deal with it and what you do to allow yourself time to grow. Initially you would and will do anything to get that fix, as she was your drug of choice. You associate her with all the pleasant memories you shared as a couple, forgetting the disrespect, the inconsistency, the lies, and the dismemberment of what you are as a man. No contact is a good start, but it is a defensive move. You need to become offensive as in deciding what you want to be when you grow up! Education, employment, lifestyle are all choices you now get to make for YOU. She is dead. Accept it, grieve and then bury her figuratively and move to the amazing life choice opened to you by her leaving. So my friend you decide. What, where, who, do you want to be a year from now? It is no longer about where you were, it is where are you going. Good luck on your soon to be amazing journey.
 

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I was married to a woman for six years who was clinically diagnosed with BPD. She divorced me two years ago. I feel what you are going through my friend.

First thing is to get into therapy once a week with a good therapist. It would be helpful to find a therapist who specializes in BPD because even though you don't have it, they will be very aware of what you went through.

Second, do you consider yourself a care-giver in relationships? Like, do you have all your sh*t together and take care of everything.... all the bills, planning, retirement stuff, cooking, cleaning, etc? Do you have a pattern in your relationships where you gravitate toward slightly immature women who don't have their sh*t together as much as you do? Looking back, I found I followed this pattern. It was almost like a parent/child dynamic. She relied on me to take care of all the many things she couldn't, while at the same time, resented me for it like a teenager resents the authority of a parent. You can't change people - if someone is immature and irresponsible, your strengths in this area will NOT rub off on them. They will not observe you and use that to improve themselves over time. Instead, they will take advantage of you for it, resent you for it, and start abusing you because of their steadily lowering level of interest in you. But they often won't actually leave you for it because they depend on you and because they have a fear of abandonment. Usually the only way to get a BPD person to abandon a relationship is to convince them that you are about to leave. Once they feel they have damaged the relationship beyond repair, they will bail on you before you bail on them. Abandonment is the worst possible thing for a person with BPD so by abandoning you before you can do it to them, they are saving themselves.

Please stay NC with her. No matter what! They are MASTER manipulators and will do anything to get back into your life and re-establish control. They are brilliant in how they attempt to do it. My ex tried to do it by reaching back out to me saying she wanted to share custody of our dog. It wasn't about the dog though - it was a way she could get back into my life and start asserting her control.... the control would have started out with disagreements in how often she gets to see the dog, or the logistics of pickup/dropoff etc, and would escalate from there. Knowing this, I didn't allow it. Bottom line, if she reaches out for ANY matter, do not respond at all. Even to say no. Just don't respond. No matter how much you know you are right and she is wrong, she WILL figure out a way to make you feel like you are wrong and get you to do what she wants.

Read "The Rational Male". It's a bit of a tough read, but is worth it. By far the best book I have read in years. You will learn the way things truly are and it will help you to correct your fantasy about what a relationship with a woman should be. That's not to say a relationship with a woman isn't and can't be wonderful, it just isn't what you think it is. You grow up forming this picture in your mind about what relationships should be like and it just isn't that way. Once you realize that, you stop craving it. Once you stop craving it, you stop ignoring red flags, putting women on pedestals, and allowing women to walk all over your boundaries and manipulate you. And once you reach this point, you will be forced to confront your internal issues that have caused you to seek relief or distraction through a relationship. It will be a journey. Read about "frame" to understand boundaries. It's in the book I suggested, and also in the DJ Bible.

Good luck and we are here for you through your journey.
 
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Been there done that. The pain after the split comes in stages. First it's usually wtf happened, then a bunch of anger towards her, followed with a great deal of shame in yourself for allowing it all to happen when you knew better. My relationship lasted 2 years, I'm 1.5 years apart and still struggling some days.

I assure you things will get better as long as you forgive yourself for letting it happen and really try to figure out your core childhood issues. Like most, you probably have some childhood issues that caused you stay with her. It could be a bunch of different things ranging from being bullied, neglected as a child, spoiled, sheltered by a parent, abandonment, lack of love, ect. It's possible you are an empath or a codependent.

Knowing what she is and how she operated takes a huge weight off your shoulders. Some guys go the rest of their lives chasing their bpd ex thinking she actually loved them. Be thankful you are not that guy. You will also in time after you read a fuk ton of material be able to spot a lie, manipulation, gaslighting and all that jazz so fast it will be like having a 3rd eye in the world. Also know that her so called love, future faking, soulmate stuff was all fake to get you to fall in her toxic web of destruction.

The 1# piece of advice I give to anyone who has come thru what you have is stay "no contact" forever! Delete all pics, letters, emails, block her! Never ever look back, answer a call or text, look at her facebook, ect. You will feel a great deal of pain if you dont follow that simple rule. Always remember if she were to ever contact you, it is NEVER about you, it's always about her. Take this time to work on you. I will gladly speak with you on the phone if you ever need anyone.

Good luck
 
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Oldmanofthesea is spot on: NO Contact is crucial and the most important advice in this case.
Read about hoovering and gaslightning, to Understand better what you have gone through.
According to NC: she is like a drug and you are addictet. You can only become clean if you not touch it ever again - which means NC!

Hate to quote myself.
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/thread...-just-got-dumped.160056/page-511#post-2404814
 
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most of the advised here done by who are already experienced on what you have been through, just ride on it and u will be fine brother..;)
 

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ive much compassion on my ex... but pwbpd, i believe they didnt have a soul.same with other pd types.. just avoid them.
 

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I was married to a woman for six years who was clinically diagnosed with BPD. She divorced me two years ago. I feel what you are going through my friend.

First thing is to get into therapy once a week with a good therapist. It would be helpful to find a therapist who specializes in BPD because even though you don't have it, they will be very aware of what you went through.

Second, do you consider yourself a care-giver in relationships? Like, do you have all your sh*t together and take care of everything.... all the bills, planning, retirement stuff, cooking, cleaning, etc? Do you have a pattern in your relationships where you gravitate toward slightly immature women who don't have their sh*t together as much as you do? Looking back, I found I followed this pattern. It was almost like a parent/child dynamic. She relied on me to take care of all the many things she couldn't, while at the same time, resented me for it like a teenager resents the authority of a parent. You can't change people - if someone is immature and irresponsible, your strengths in this area will NOT rub off on them. They will not observe you and use that to improve themselves over time. Instead, they will take advantage of you for it, resent you for it, and start abusing you because of their steadily lowering level of interest in you. But they often won't actually leave you for it because they depend on you and because they have a fear of abandonment. Usually the only way to get a BPD person to abandon a relationship is to convince them that you are about to leave. Once they feel they have damaged the relationship beyond repair, they will bail on you before you bail on them. Abandonment is the worst possible thing for a person with BPD so by abandoning you before you can do it to them, they are saving themselves.

Please stay NC with her. No matter what! They are MASTER manipulators and will do anything to get back into your life and re-establish control. They are brilliant in how they attempt to do it. My ex tried to do it by reaching back out to me saying she wanted to share custody of our dog. It wasn't about the dog though - it was a way she could get back into my life and start asserting her control.... the control would have started out with disagreements in how often she gets to see the dog, or the logistics of pickup/dropoff etc, and would escalate from there. Knowing this, I didn't allow it. Bottom line, if she reaches out for ANY matter, do not respond at all. Even to say no. Just don't respond. No matter how much you know you are right and she is wrong, she WILL figure out a way to make you feel like you are wrong and get you to do what she wants.

Read "The Rational Male". It's a bit of a tough read, but is worth it. By far the best book I have read in years. You will learn the way things truly are and it will help you to correct your fantasy about what a relationship with a woman should be. That's not to say a relationship with a woman isn't and can't be wonderful, it just isn't what you think it is. You grow up forming this picture in your mind about what relationships should be like and it just isn't that way. Once you realize that, you stop craving it. Once you stop craving it, you stop ignoring red flags, putting women on pedestals, and allowing women to walk all over your boundaries and manipulate you. And once you reach this point, you will be forced to confront your internal issues that have caused you to seek relief or distraction through a relationship. It will be a journey. Read about "frame" to understand boundaries. It's in the book I suggested, and also in the DJ Bible.

Good luck and we are here for you through your journey.
You summarized my situation almost word for word. I did everything for her, found her jobs, and essentially wrote her resume. It was exactly like taking care of a kid, mentally draining and leaving no time to take care of myself. She tried to pull a similar tactic with the dog when I was kicking her out of my apartment by trying to come back in because she wanted one more time to say good bye to the dog. This happened right after she told me she slept with her friend's cousin while she was in town visiting a few weeks after the breakup. I sent her some angry messages a few days after that incident and went no contact ever since. She tried to reach out to me a month after that incident apologizing for what she did. It took a lot of will power to not reply because I wanted to tell her off again, but I did not reply. Prior to the breakup I suspect she was cheating on me with her friend's brother. The sudden best guy "friend" that appears out of no where right before the breakup.

Many of you are right this relationship has unleashed some deep seated issues from my childhood that I've buried away for years. I am currently working through the feelings of shame and every now and then the anger comes back. I appreciate the support guys!
 

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You summarized my situation almost word for word. I did everything for her, found her jobs, and essentially wrote her resume. It was exactly like taking care of a kid, mentally draining and leaving no time to take care of myself. She tried to pull a similar tactic with the dog when I was kicking her out of my apartment by trying to come back in because she wanted one more time to say good bye to the dog. This happened right after she told me she slept with her friend's cousin while she was in town visiting a few weeks after the breakup. I sent her some angry messages a few days after that incident and went no contact ever since. She tried to reach out to me a month after that incident apologizing for what she did. It took a lot of will power to not reply because I wanted to tell her off again, but I did not reply. Prior to the breakup I suspect she was cheating on me with her friend's brother. The sudden best guy "friend" that appears out of no where right before the breakup.

Many of you are right this relationship has unleashed some deep seated issues from my childhood that I've buried away for years. I am currently working through the feelings of shame and every now and then the anger comes back. I appreciate the support guys!
Keep going and never look back.
 

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It takes time to get your head straight, its going to take a while, don't expect a quick recovery, BPDs really fvck with your mental well being it also affects your physical health. Its taken me a good 2 years, now I'm trying to learn more about BPD so I know what to look for when I encounter women. My head was a mess I had her in my life I had a job that was causing me serious burnout. Things ended in one big blow out, she was plotting revenge against me, smear campaign going full tilt, and I ended up walking away from my job because of it, today life is better.
 

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To add: go out, experience new things, you have to build new memories - because one of the hard things, if you have been together with her for a while, and the longer the harder, is that she is in every memory you have of the past time. Go out and build new memories without her in it. Helps to speed up the process a little bit.
And I know. Sometimes you feel mit like going out, Travel or doing something new - because you miss her and even might think of her during this Action. But the pain will not be as hard as at home.
So: if you can stay at home or can do something always decide for the last. Even if you then think of her, it will at least be better and less worse than being at home and only thinking of her. Action, action, action. People advice to be busy but I think being busy with work etc alone is not enough, you have to do things that build new memories.
 

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Hey man, had something similar bring me here around 6 years ago. Funny looking back on it now but at the time I was a real mess. Here is the thread I started, had a ton of great info and advice. It's going to take some time but just keep on improving yourself and whatever you do avoid her at all costs.

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/bpd-ex-3-months-out-need-some-advice.196369/
One of the things that I can take from that Thread is that most guys posting had been with a BPD and I don' recognise 95% of this usernames. That tells me that they all moved on and I assume are now happy in whatever relationships they now have.
Most people look for BPD success stories of moving on amd I think that alone shows that people often do move on but don' feel the need to pop back up years down the line saying so.

Thanks for the link.
 
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