Natural Game vs canned

[FranklinsTower]

Hi, I've read david d's e book and mysterys e book, and I'm very interested in the world of pick up, i just dont like the idea of canned openers, lines and dhv spikes ect. I dont want to ask a group of girls for a female opinion on something i dont care about, it doesnt feel genuine to me, I'm just trying to get better at pick up using my own material, but I havent been having good sucsess, just doing stuff like introducing myself and asking girls to dance etc. What can i do to build attraction using my own style (starting by saying whats up/introducing myself). Thanks

 

[kingman]

Girls wants confidence. They want a man that shows no fear around them. So you have to work on your confidence. You can get up your confidence buy approaching more girls, dress better and get better looking.

Don`t introduce yourself, she should be asking you, not the other way around.

Learn how to walk and talk confidently.

Canned game does not work for me. Natural game is the way to go

 

[horaholic]

The MM, canned routines are getting obsolete. They are too widely known, and gives a fake image of yourself. Opinion openers are fvcking retarded, and always have been IMO. I dont see how chicks dont see righ tthrough that. Check out RSD. They scrapped the routines and went straight for the natural inner game. It makes you a better person in general, rather than putting on a huge 'act.'

 

[worship]

The MM, canned routines are getting obsolete. They are too widely known, and gives a fake image of yourself. Opinion openers are fvcking retarded, and always have been IMO. I dont see how chicks dont see righ tthrough that. Check out RSD. They scrapped the routines and went straight for the natural inner game. It makes you a better person in general, rather than putting on a huge 'act.'

RSD?

 

[apec]

real social dynamics

rsdnation.com

i've been watching some of the videos from there and most of the **** is pretty good, there pretty much all natural

 

[JJMcLure]

I'm just trying to get better at pick up using my own material, but I havent been having good sucsess, just doing stuff like introducing myself and asking girls to dance etc. What can i do to build attraction using my own style (starting by saying whats up/introducing myself)

"Iintroducing yourself and asking her to dance" is not game - that's why it isn't working.

Learn some techniques, apply them, test them, refine them and your success will go up. It doesn't have to be canned material (although that could be used to practice with - so you can see what a response to a proven successful opener looks like - before you go freestyle and use your own routines/openers). If you really are against canned openers, use a situational opener. But then you will need to follow it up with something solid to build attraction - if you expect to open then fall back into a logical conversation it will fall flat (where are you from, what do you do etc). Situational openers, ****y/funny, teasing, building rapport, demonstrating value, story telling -there's so much theory out there we can't cover it here.

 

[horaholic]

Dont worry about openers. You can use anything as an opener. The game comes in with grabbing/keeping interest after the opener. Introducing yourself is a fine opener, IF you can immediately move to an interesting conversation. You have to A: get their interest. (interesting stories, tricks, or just having an wild/fun/energetic/exciting personality, and arent afraid to do crazy ****). B. Lead (isolate, bring her into YOUR world, etc.) C: Show your intent (Not being afraid to go for what you want, but not being outcome-dependant.) D Logistics. (actually being able to get to her place or yours.)

Obviously there is a lot more to it than that. If you go to seductiondatabase.com, it is a forum with lots of ideas of openers (a lot of canned garbage, but sometimes useful.), date ideas, etc. Its not like this forum, it's just tips.

here is an example of why canned openers are going obsolete. I just got read this on RSD:

Well, I ignored the warnings given to me by everyone on the forums, and I went ahead and used a canned opener.

I used the opener about the gf who makes out with other girls on the weekends at parties on this hb 8.5 who I have a few college classes with. As soon as I ran through it she paused for like 10 seconds and was like "do you watch the pickup artist on ?".

As soon as she said that, i was shocked. My face probably went white as a sheet. I don't watch that show so I didn't know that they used that opener as an example on the show, otherwise theres NO WAY I would have tried it.

The worst part is that I had no good response to it.. I knew as soon as she asked me if I watched the show that they must have used it on there. I think I said something to the effect of "no, ive never seen it. Why is it on tonight or something?".

Then the girl kinda played along because I looked so nervous after that, but I just felt like a complete idiot. Shes like, well if youre being serious, then no i dont think its cheating.

I just kind of excused myself as quickly as I could. She and her 2 friends KNEW it was a canned opener and there was really no denying it.

Tyler mentioned it on the RSD Foundations CD too.. he said canned openers were a thing of the past. I guess I had to learn the hard way.

So guys, seriously. I know you already know this, but dont use canned openers. I made myself look like a total idiot. The worst part is that I see these girls everyday in class. Ugh.

lol peace out.


edit when I say canned, I meant an opener that was unoriginal, not something that was preplanned. Sorry for the mistake in terminology.