"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I met this girl off myspace. Before we met, we talked on the phone for 1 hour and 6 minutes. I ran a lot of routines, etc. they were pretty good but not great. After 30 minutes in the phone convo. She said when were going to meet, I said I have some time tomorrow in the late evening, but I’m meeting my friends up at 10pm. I said meet me up tomorrow at starbucks 6pm tomorrow fri. Note: during one point in the phone convo. The topic of movies came up and she said we should watch a movie together sometime. About her--She is 20, African American, does not got out a lot (but some of her friends/relatives are secret society), seems not to talk to much at times, she does not act ghetto, she really was only in 2 relationships, she has big breasts and a big booty (but she is not fat). She is a 7.5 in looks.

We met up at starbucks at 6 pm. We fluffed for 15 minutes. She told me “since your seeing your friends tonight. Im going to see my friends tonight. I only have one hour hour, I have to meet them at 7 pm”. WTF???!!! She’s playing games back and trying to game me. I ignore this comment and go into story or something. I ran a lot of good attraction (material). The talking we had was kinda of light. I tried a few routines, stories, hook questions, try to get her to tell stories, etc. but she was not talking that much, but the attraction material I was running was working very good. She was laughing a lot (at intervals, sometimes her attraction would die down, that’s when I ran more attraction material which worked), she let me kino her and I upped the kino on her (from hand, to arm to back, to neck, etc.), she did kino a little bit, but it was brief and not too much. At one point She asked “where are you and your friends going to tonight?” I said “I don’t know yet, were just going to meet up at 10 and then be spontaneous and decide what to do when we meet” She said “most people make plans”. I said “we do make plans but we also like to be spontaneous sometimes because things get boring when everything is planned a lot.” I said “you and your friends don’t just meet sometimes and be spontaneous? (I reframed her here and then she qualified herself). She said “not really but we are a little spontaneous at times.” A little later she said smiling “your going to the bar (with your friends tonight) to hit on girls huh?” I said “ok you got me, Im really going to the bar to hit on guys tonight, I like guys with nice asses..” She laughs and says “your gay”, I then say “what are you talking about you’re the one who admitted you kissed your best friend before (her best friend is a girl), your bi and you know your going to hit on the women tonight”. She laughs and qualifies herself that she is not bi. After 15 minutes of fluff talking. I said “lets go”. She said “where are you taking me”. I said “to the woods. Im really pshyco, plus im a stalker.” She laughs and asks again. I said “the place is nearby and it’s a surprise”. I then grabbed her hand and led her out of starbucks. When we hit the parking lot I put my hand around her waste. Her attraction is really high right now. When we get to my car I deescalate kino. I did a lot of escalating and deescalating kino througout the first 50 minutes.

I take her to bowling arcade. She is having tons of fun. We play street figher, fighting games, basketball game, ddr, air hockey, rollerball. Etc. I escalate kino during this time. Went to putting hands around her waist from behind her and then descalated kino. When I won her at games I bragged and threw my arms in the air (like a boxer does when he when a fight) and said “ I won, im the champ”. She laughs a little, she puts hands up in air when she finally beats me at something. We won tickets and she buys herself a keychain. We did a lot of light talking the arcade. I tried stories, hook questions, asking her questions (about friends, familt, etc.) but I could not get a Connection. She said a few times “I told you pretty much everything about myself (over phone)” she said a few times tell me more about you “I ran some stories (one about mountains) the stories I told I thought were told pretty good but there was no reall connections on the stories. The mountain story she could not connect with because she never went to the mountains. It ried other topics but she would answer briefly, but her attraction was high though. This is weird she is kinoing me at times, smiling at times and responding very well to attraction stuff, but she does not talk a lot. This is really messing me up.

After arcade we head to car. I hold her hand for a few seconds and the desescalate and I then put arm around her waste and she puts her head onto my chest as were walking. As we get to car I thinking of running IJJJJI’S smell her hair routine but I thought too much then went kinda beta and did not do it. We get into car and she shows me her key chain she got from the tickets. She says “isn’t this key chain cute?” I said its “lame a$$ just about like everything else you like (im kinoing her hand and looking at her; she is smiling and turns head because she is being shy and probably thinking about a possible kiss)”. I pause for a second then look at her neck and hair. I said “is that cologne on your neck? Because it smells like your wearing cologne?” she said “no”. I said “I think your lying I think that is cologne. Let me see to find out if that is really cologne or not. I smell her neck, as im doing this SHE PUTS HER CHEEK ON MY CHEEK. Im thinking yes im in for the kiss. I said I don’t think its cologne. She is smiling looks at me and looks down and does not reinstate eye contact. I ATTACK AND GO IN FOR THE KISS. I kiss her, and now were making out. After 30 seconds of kissing I said “ok that’s enough kissing. I don’t want you too excited now.”

I start car and start driving, I pull over and get out of car (on a side street) and I then said “your driving this mustang”. She says “ what I might get in a wreck” I said “good then we’ll al die” she laughs and gets out of the car. While out of the car we make out for a couple of minutes. I kiss her neck with some toungue, and nibble on her ear with some toungue. she stops the make out and says we better get going. She gets in the car and then she starts driving. She is in pretty good atttacrion state (but her attraction is not high enough where I felt I could isolate her, plus she is not horny enough) I said “turn right” she said “I have to turn left I have to meet my friends remember”. compliance test failed. Now im pretty sure I can not isolate her for a f close. Her mind is too much on meeting her friends. I ignore comment and start teasing her. We get back to starbucks parking lot. She leave car in middle of road because she says this car is too hard for me to park. We get out of car. I put arms out for hug goodbye. I go in for kiss but she won’t let me kiss her. WTF? She said I don’t kiss people in public. There were peple around and we were in the middle of the parking lot so she probably is telling the truth. When she moves away from kiss I then try to kiss her neck and ears, she keeps laughing and then she sways me and her left and right. She says “we should do this again”. I said yea , I had a good time and I you were fun. She says “good” (positive response). After about 30 seconds I gave up on kiss and then we both said good bye and left.



COULD USE SOME PUA FEEDBACK

Question 1 what should I have did or talked about during rapport stage? Feedback needed on this one; remember she was not being talkative but had attraction.

Quest. 2 How would you guys game her from here? I met her on fri.; im planning on calling Sunday nite (tomorrow) and talking for a little bit (if she does not answer I leave message telling her to call back), then invite her out to do activities (because I need around 7 hours before I lay her), then after a few activities take her back to my place for a movie. What do you guys recommend I should do?


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So far 1 hour and 6 min. on phone. 1 hour and 5 min. in person. I need about 5 more hours according to Mystery’s 7 hour ruler to make this girl my gf. Problem is she don’t talk much and expects me to talk a lot.
 

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LA_Chico

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"she does not act ghetto," haha, good one bro
 

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Wow dude... you are so obsessed with all the techniques and tricks... I was almost expecting you to say you crashed and burned.

I don't see what the problem is?? She obviously likes you. The best way to make her your gf is to stick it in her a few times and keep up what you're doing. Women have this thing where the more sex they have with a guy, the more attached they get.
 
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