"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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My worst rejection ever thru me off my game for a while!

Plain & Simple

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Dang yall this is gonna be hurtin for a while.

Ok me personally i dont wanna sound conceited but im a good looking guy like a 9+ and i always get the girl that i want.

Every girl loves my personality and ofcourse my looks.

So remember how i made a thread saying that i wanted this girl at a radio station right?...well on friday me and my friend was at the station, we all vibing with the djs and the people in there having a blast.
So i see that the girl that i want is not there yet, so i ask one of the workers "When is (name here) coming" she tells me "at 9:30 have u seen her before" i said "yeah over the myspace"


So time goes by and as she comes in she came in with her hoodie on didnt look at nobody like she didnt feel like working that day, so she walks around the room and she puts lipgloss on as she do that she gave me the eye, i didnt approach then since she just walked in, i was just giving her some time to get settled.

So she walks out and comes back in with some food and a drink and we was about to leave soon so it was now or never, so i walked across over to her side and i introduce myself "hello im P&S" she smiles with a im into u look.
I kinda froze for like 3 seconds and i kinda mumbled my words and kept sayung "you know, you know wat i mean," i was stuck. yet she was still smiling and waiting for me to say the right thing.
So i made the mistake of asking her if she had a bf, thats when she turned me down.

she says first low and sexy like she was gonna get with me "so are u asking me for my number, i got a bf" i froze big time then she yelled out to the whole staff "hey hes trynna get my phone number!" thats when everybody got on me they even put me on the mic on air to say what happened lol it was fun but yet not fun cause i didnt get the number.

They told me that thats how she is, later on they called me back in to take a pic with her it was just her and me and the guy that was taking the pic, she was looking at me like she wanted to get with me and give me her number but she was on the phone plus i was kinda heated at how she embarrased me in front of the whole radio staff.
she kept making eye contact with me i know that she likes me but why the hell did she do what she did.

If she gonna turn me down ok thats fine say u got a man and ill bounce but she screamed it out. Wats funny is that we sent each other emails in the past and she was real cool, then this happens.


Im not the type that gets stuck onto one female but this one in particular is gonna take some time to heal,i really wanted her, that same night me ans our boys went out to party with the station she wasnt there but i had a blast and got plenty of numbers still as of today im thinking about her and how i messed up. man i just got nervous, and my words didnt come out like they usually would.

I put this one on me , why did i get nervous when i never do i literally never do get nervous when i apporach and talk to females, but at the station, i messed up.

Dang any advice in how to get over this here. and wasnt she wrong for turning me down in that manner? If i see her at a club i dont even think that ima say hi to her just straight up ignore her, but i still wanna get with her believe it or not cause i know if i talked to her like normally do to this females i would of had the number boyfriend or not.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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You're taking this too hard. Yeah you just got your balls majorly busted... by a babe... and it sounds like a first. That was hilarious. Calm down and have a laugh.
 

Someone Much cooler

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honestly it would turn me on if a chick tried to pull some **** like this on me...I would play back...loosen up and play back. Next time you see her...smile, look her up and down, approach her and whisper something clever in her ear. she obviously loves the chase and wants to play, beat her and i think you can have her. Or better yet, make a move, when she makes one, do nothing, let her make another move and then you make one.
 

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I don't think I have a chance now, the way that she turned me down was too hard, I mean she was looking like she wanted to talk to me but then she says the opposite
 

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when u stuttered.. your first impression that she got was unconfident, unnatural...

it came off as if you were trying to pick her up..that you were some unconfident , un manly to her and that might have turned her off

sometimes i think,, the first 10 seconds you are taking to her..can make or break it i feel like that sometimes



btw, quick question...can you get laid with looks alone ?
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Like the song says..."Don't worry...be happy".
 

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I think she was probably just testing you a little bit and you got outgamed.

I'll tell you exactly how to get over this - stay busy. Work out a lot and approach a lot of women. You'll forget about her real quick.

Plain & Simple said:
I don't think I have a chance now, the way that she turned me down was too hard, I mean she was looking like she wanted to talk to me but then she says the opposite
 

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No u don't understand. For me to go out and get numbers its too easy, I get as many numbers as I want a week.

Its just that out al the girls that I can easily get I really wanted this one in particular at the station I was waiting for that one chance to meet her and when it came I froze and fuked it up, I wasn't on my ps and qs , if I could just rewind time.

I don't know why I got like that.

Its like training thru a whole football season and going undefeated until the superbowl and lose the superbowl by 1 point on a last second field goal, that's the feeling i got right now.

Even if I reach the superbowl again I can't win it cus of how she looks at me like now.

Yall see wat i m sayin?
 

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The problem was you didn't build any rapport, you gave up all your chance at prizing and literally handed your balls over to her.

But you can still play off of this. Seem vulnerable, like she really got to you. You might be able to get some pity out of it.
 

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Create Reality said:
The problem was you didn't build any rapport, .
yup..u basically gave her an OPT ..its like asking r u single ? of course shes going to say yes even though shes free as a bird..hehe..no girl is going hand you the prize
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Plain & Simple

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When yall say that I didn't build no rapport yall meab that I didn't create no conversation before I went for the number? To be honest I my mistake was that I thought about it for the whole week then my chance comes and I froze .

Why it gota happen with her outta everybody da only one dat I ever really wanted
 

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Show us this pic of you and her. Maybe she is way out of your leauge and you need us to tell you. :D
 

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You thought about it to much that's why... You overthinked the situation then hesistated... she sensed your wussiness and neediness and spanked you for it...
 

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the answer here is so obvious. IF SHEs HOTT, obviously she has guys tryna get at her left and right...and there has to be a lot in there that are ballin, and players and ****. IT DOESNT MATTER HOW PRETTY U ARE...ahhaaaaa.... u fukin pretty boy!! ITS ABOUT BEIN A REAL MAN.....a real man wouldnt get all nervous and shyt over a women...and she sensed ur needyness and she KNEW u aint man enough to handle her, why would she give u her # when a hundred other guys are hittin her up everyday?? U didnt give her any reason, u just mumbled some ****, said to urself, ok dude look im a hot sassy looking fellow, i got this, can i have ur #? you need to step up ur game...cuz obviously u aint got no inner game u need to work on that... Cuz seems like ur too dependnt on ur ego of looks....like women are!
 

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Yal right das why I'm so mad cus I never freez up lik some1 said I thought about it 2 much for 4 days to be exact believe me, when I went back in she was lookin like she wanted to talk to me I could read it all over.
I kinda think that I still have a chance if I see her again I know it
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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You were smitten and fluffed it. We are only human, man. Like I said...it's not the end of the world. Learn and move on.

Like I've said elsewhere, if you dwell on this small misfire it will consume you and leave an ugly emotional scar that will stuff up your game. You seem to be doing well otherwise, unless those chicks you get numbers from are HB1s...!!! :D
 

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Lol I think I'm going to try to get at her next time I see her, ill be me then, at the station only I wished yall were there the second time, she was looking at me like "come talk to me know" but I didn't cus I wasn't even thinkin about it nomore after what happened.

I think she said that out loud but still wanted to talk to me.


Let me see her again......
 
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