Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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My Girl and I "separated" for good.

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My girlfriend and I separated three days ago over marriage. The whole episode was sad and joy at the same time for her and I. She wanted to know if there is a future for the two of us together because I break up with her four different times over the course of our relationship. I told her lately I've been thinking of not wanting to married. Wanted to be single and never to worry about wife. She was surprised. She would like to get married to me. Her grandfather, who never liked two of her previous boyfriends, like me. Her entire family enjoys my company. The problem is I do not know if I truly want to get married in the near future. She wanted to marry in the next 3 to 4 years because she is getting old. She is 27 and in 3-4 years she'll be 30+. We all know women that age finds it hard finding suitable husbands.

This woman is very intellectual. Has a PhD, and is a prof at my school. Very much and INDEPENDENT woman who truly LOVES me. Does things for me that I'm yet to see other women do for me. I don't want to mess up her future. She was glad and mad I told her this, and so was I. She still called me two times yesterday telling me how her day went.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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woman who truly LOVES me.

It sounds like she loves the idea of being married more than she loves you. If you were her top priority, she would stay with you on whatever terms you would have her.



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when exactly can we see a woman loves you. After all, isn't marriage is what is on women her age mind?

That is the common viewpoint. I don't think it has to be true, though. When a woman will accept being with you on whatever terms you give her, that is the girl to be with. You'll have the power in the relationship; both of you will be happier that way. The marriage ultimatum is a common one; a lot of guys break down, and then their subsequent marriage becomes a downward spiral of power loss. But the answer to anything a woman ever says or even implies to you that begins with "I'm going to break up with you unless..." is to stop listening, point to the door, and cut her off with a polite 'goodbye.' If she leaves, then that is not the best woman for you.
 
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Agree with Bible Belt.

Regardless though dude it seems like you are not head over heels for her so it looks like you made the right decision for yourself to me.
 

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This girl sounds familiar. Didn't you post about breaking up with her 'for good' a while (months to a year) ago?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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frivolousz21: I like her but her history with guys frightens the hell out of me.

Bible_Belt: "It sounds like she loves the idea of being married more than she loves you. If you were her top priority, she would stay with you on whatever terms you would have her."
This is very true. It thought about this idea at one point but I simply push it aside and begin to wonder when exactly can we see a woman loves you. After all, isn't marriage is what is on women her age mind?

KontrollerX: Thanks for seconding BB.

##17: Yes, this is the same woman. As indicated in the original message, I broke up with her 4 different times over the course of the relationship.
 

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You broke up with her 4 times, why?
 

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Rollo Tomassi said:
You broke up with her 4 times, why?
Her history with men troubles me. In her previous relationship, she told me, voluntarily at the beginning of our relationship, she has dated numerous men. On two different occasions, she cheated on her boyfriends. Of the two occasions, non was really her fault. One of them, she said, she virtually broke up with the guy but he won't leave her alone. She does not this this was really cheating since they broke up but the guy won't leave her alone. I do not recall the detail to the other guy she cheated on.

One time, while we were dating, she was drunk hanging out her friends and then she kissed one of the guys in the group on the lip. When she got home she told me what she did. I though it was simply a peck on the lip but few days later, one of her friend loaded the picture of them onto her myspace page and she showed me. I was pissed and told her it was over.

Another time I was spending the night at her house and around 3am, her phone rung and she left the bedroom and when to the leaving room to talk to the person for about 15 min. When she returned to be bedroom and I asked her who it was she did not want to tell me at first. Then she said it was one of the guys she used to date who called and said he is in the neighborhood and look like to pay her a visit. Yes at 3 am. Though of her talking on the phone for 15+ mins to a former boyfriend at 3am perplexed me. Let alone he want to pay her a visit at 3am.
 

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Another time I was spending the night at her house and around 3am, her phone rung and she left the bedroom and when to the leaving room to talk to the person for about 15 min. When she returned to be bedroom and I asked her who it was she did not want to tell me at first. Then she said it was one of the guys she used to date who called and said he is in the neighborhood and look like to pay her a visit. Yes at 3 am. Though of her talking on the phone for 15+ mins to a former boyfriend at 3am perplexed me. Let alone he want to pay her a visit at 3am.


The problem is not in him calling, but in her talking to him, especially while you are there. That's very disrespectful toward you. She was basically telling him, "not tonight, but call me again next time."
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Thanks guys. Now I would like to have an idea of how to turn her into a FB. I have not talked to her since last Thursday, 3 days ago. Now I'm wondering if I should call and invite myself over to her house or ask her to come to mine. I know she will agree to either request but I don't want her to assume I'm trying to get back with her. Any suggestions?
 

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Well...I would have broke up with her too. FWB? I doubt you will pull that one up. Why? Because I sense you get to emotionally invested with her...and she MIGHT be emotionally invested with you. Having said that, you can tell her that you don't want a relationship with her.

She will cheat on you...in fact, she already DID. And will continue to do that. That's why she wants to married you. You are easy (in her eyes).
 

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I don't want her to assume I'm trying to get back with her. Any suggestions?

Don't call. Standard fvck-buddy arrangement in my experience has been she calls you, comes to your place herself if she has a car, then puts out, no exceptions. But you wait for her to call you, or at least that is how I have always done it. When you have 3-4 girls like this who all know they are not the only one, and are the one calling you for sex, then life can be pretty good, but you have to not AFC it up and start asking them where they have been when not with you. If you're fvcking other girls, what a girl does when away from you is really none of your business. Most guys can't handle that, which is why they can't pull off plate spinning, or at least having regular sex with multiple girls.
 

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Bible_Belt said:
If you're fvcking other girls, what a girl does when away from you is really none of your business.

Why? Why does everything have to be 50/50?
 

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OK so she pokes holes in donuts,although there are exceptions I have found such people lack common sense and emotional maturity...this woman is not marriage material...Bible Belt is on the money,just use her as she uses you...
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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