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Ok,
I don't really care who reads this or not because its gonna be a rant to end all rants! Appologies, if I type a bit drunk cos I AM right now....

Tonight was my 22nd Birthday... (actually Tuesday was my 22nd birthday but my buddy wanted to go home after 2 drinks so we all palnned to go out tonight properly, Saturday....)

So I hewar there's this big party going on. Its the 21st birthday of a girl I know so I plan to head there with my buds. As it turns out as I arriveed in ton they were at a bar playing pool... around 9.30....

5 guys huddled in the corner of a bar playing alone on a table. I couldn't move them until after 11.30... I eventually got them to move to the bar where the party is at....

We get there and they prefer to stay to the side and not mingle with anyone. I tried to go off and talk to people but it eventually led to my friends leaving around 12.45, cos I wasn't paying them enough attention....

I stayed to chat to other guys I knew... It was fun but it would have been more fun if I got to stay with my buds but they had ZERO interest in chatting with the crowd....

So the night went on... I got into a set and tried to open up some conversation with the "Jelous girlfriend routine"... It got the group chatting but this one UG who seemed to have some value to the group really wouldn't shut the hell up about it and really killed he mood... 2 other girls in the set kinda talked about it and I tried to open them up more but their UG friend really really wouldn't shut up. Even after I mvoed away I could hear her still talk about it... she was drunk and not really into any real conversation, just wanted to take the piss so it really didn't work out....

Anyway, I'm totally pissed at my friends... had NO interest in coming to find women, just wanted to stay in the corner table playing pool, it took AGES to pry them away from their pool table... I mean, I'm shy as hell when it comes to meeting people but at least I'd like to get out of the ALL male atmosphere just to at least see whats going down in the place.

Same story, when I finally got them to move scenery, they refusesd to join the party and rather stayed to the side. None-the-less we were STILL approached by 2 women... I stress WOMEN as these were older girls but definitly in the MILF teritory... I'm thinking GREAT... nothings gonna come of this but at least its a way of practicing... guess what... my buddies, once again, totally try toget rid of them by any means possible...

I mean, given... if truth be told I'm totally and utterly socially retarded... I just don;t know how to keep people I don;t know's attention span for longer than 2 minutes but Jesus... I have to start somewhere... if chatting to 2 milfs after a few brews is it then samn it, thats where I need to start... God, this is soooooooo frutrating....

... I admit, I AM the biggest AFC going... I am terrified at approaching girls... not necessarily because I won't apporach them but beacuse I KNOW I can't hold a decent conversation with them long enough to ATTRACT them... but Jasas... just like My FR from last Tuesday... If the GIRLS are gonna approach US... at least we could use them as practice rather than turn them away...

I'm so mad at myself and my friends right now,,,

Sorry for the rant...

Newbie in training...
DBasser.
 

i am me

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u know wut tho, if u start makin a change itll prolly influence your friends too. sounds like ur really frustrated so make some new friends but dont ditch the ones youve already got, try to help them out without bein too pushy
 

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Ah its a f***ing waste, I'm trying my best here but I'm not making loads of progress...

My friends are cool guys but they just like the same old thing EVERY time.

As for picking up women, its just really frustrating. I know its all about game and whatever else but I always get this feeling they have their mind made up from the off... I'm not for them...
Which is really annoying because most that I meet are of the loud UG variety and for some reason aren't intelligent enough to hold a conversation, they just need to butt into conversations, be loud, try to know it all and "protect" their friends... geez... they can't all be like this can they?
 

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Relax! :up:

My friends are the same way. You know what I do? I leave them at home! Yeah I still see them, but I have a new group of guys who I spend most of my time with. My other friends are cool, but I've changed so much that I no longer share the same interests as them. All they like to do is drink and talk about how hot some girl is. Wow, sounds like fun. ZZZZZZZ.

I tried showing them the light, but they still opted for the blue pill. Whatever though... They're still my friends, but I dont let them hold me down anymore. It's your life, grab it by the balls. If they dont want a part of it, then let them be. More women for you!

Dont worry about the UGs. They're jealous because they have to use match.com and pictures from 5 years ago to get guys. Talk to the hottest chicks you can find, if a UG buts in, just say it's rude of her. Don't be an ass otherwise it will probably piss off the GF that you're talking to. See it's ok when girl friends bash each other, but when a guy does it, it's like ****ing with lion cubs. The females get hostile.
 

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I know this is going waaaaaaay off on a tengent now.. (now thats it's the next day and the drinks have left my system....lol)...

I mean, they're cool guys in their own right... they are fun when we go do stuff as friends... I mean, last night would have been fun with them if we went out to play pool, but as it was we went out because there was a party across town we were invited to but they just wanted to stay there, in a dark bar, on the corner table, away from the world it seemed...

I'd like to get out there and meet other guys who like to get out there but I don't know what to do... I mean... THESE are my friends... so they're who I hang with... hmmm... needs some work :)
 

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This is an interesting post, since I think a lot of us have the same types of friends. I will start by saying that I have no problem going out some nights being mutually exclusive to our own group and doing our own thing. However, my friends are chronically single, and would most likely wish to practice talking to girls at the very least when going out. However, I find with one group of friends that only myself and maybe one other friend will actively get our feet wet and talk to women and network. The other friends will usually shadow us and talk to the girls as we bring them in, or worse, try to pick them up.


My friends are the same way. You know what I do? I leave them at home!


While not exactly how I would go about this, the idea is right. My suggestion to you is to make friends whom you invasion being the type of person you wish more to be. For example this summer, I started hanging out with one of my friends who is extremely outgoing, fun and an all round crazy guy. Put me and him together in the same party, and we are the first to talk to girls and get ourselves out there. We become the life of the party, number close. By the end of the night, we have so many options for women to call to party the next evening. With these kinds of friends you draw inspiration you need to go approach and just have fun.

Don't completly ignore your old friends, but start hanging around some fresh blood. Learn some new things, hear another take on your methodology of approaching women. You might even find your old friends starting to change...
 
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