"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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My adventure with openers.

Canadian Catnip

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I decided today to try doing some approaches. I learned a few from some of Style's stuff. I decided on the Spells opener.

I went to a coffee shop downtown that had a long bench outside the front door for the customers to sit on. I was sitting there drinking my coffee when a cute young girl sat on the bench beside me about three feet away.

She took out a notepad and pen and started writing in it. I sat there for a few minutes wondering how to open when luck would have it a homeless person walked by and we both looked at him then each other.

I took that as a good time to open. I leaned over and said, "Excuse me, I have a strange question for you. Do you believe in spells?"

I completed the rest of the opener and stopped. Well her eyes just brightened up and she started talking to me a mile a minute. I responded every now and then keeping up my end of the conversation, she was completely in to it.

Unfortunately two of her friends came by, a guy and girl, that I assume she had not seen in a long time. She jumped up and gave them both a hug. Her two friends went to get a coffee and came back out an sat beside the girl. But she keeps talking to me. I was floored, and a little embarrassed. Her two friends were trying to get her attention, and I, a stranger was getting all of her attention.

After about 30 seconds of this I said to her "Well it was nice talking to you, I'll let you join your friends." and I got up to leave. She stands up as well and says, "Nice meeting you." and reaches out and shakes my hand.

If her friends had not come along I would have probably been able to do a number close. Because I am in practice mode these days I am not worried about closing.

I was amazed at how effective openers are on women.

Has anyone had success with openers? Which ones work best for you?
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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blackbelt2k

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see here in nyc, i don't think the spells line would work...yea, women here would just give me a weird look... i my opener is usually hey, how are you? if i get eye contact and a smile... otherwise i just walk around like i have a 15 inch kawk, and try the sex appeal approach.
 

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According to Mystery, it takes about 250 approaches in order to get good at them. I believe it was 'good', I can't exactly remember the word he used.

Anyway, after last night my approach-o-meter is at 10. Wow it seems like a long way to 250.

It was actually more fun approaching women last night than last week when I started. First of all I wasn't drunk last night. Secondly, I seemed a little better at reading their reactions and body language.

There is one set that I ejected from early, but afterward I realized that it was on with one of the girls, but I couldn't see it while I was there. I mentally kicked myself later on for not hanging out and giving it a little more time. Hey, it's all about calibration right.
 

Canadian Catnip

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I've been out of the dating scene for some time and just now needing to learn a lot of stuff that I never knew about.

As for experienced, I am always learning. At 43 I still have approach anxiety. It's kind of embarrassing to talk about it with my friends actually.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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are u a virgin? how many girls u been with?

details always help to analyze ur situation
 

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Personally I don't think it was the opener that worked for you. I would guess that it was the way you look.

The opener just broke the ice and gave her an opportunity to talk with you. Any opener would have done I reckon.
 

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Canadian Catnip said:
I decided today to try doing some approaches. I learned a few from some of Style's stuff. I decided on the Spells opener.

I went to a coffee shop downtown that had a long bench outside the front door for the customers to sit on. I was sitting there drinking my coffee when a cute young girl sat on the bench beside me about three feet away.

She took out a notepad and pen and started writing in it. I sat there for a few minutes wondering how to open when luck would have it a homeless person walked by and we both looked at him then each other.

I took that as a good time to open. I leaned over and said, "Excuse me, I have a strange question for you. Do you believe in spells?"

I completed the rest of the opener and stopped. Well her eyes just brightened up and she started talking to me a mile a minute. I responded every now and then keeping up my end of the conversation, she was completely in to it.

Unfortunately two of her friends came by, a guy and girl, that I assume she had not seen in a long time. She jumped up and gave them both a hug. Her two friends went to get a coffee and came back out an sat beside the girl. But she keeps talking to me. I was floored, and a little embarrassed. Her two friends were trying to get her attention, and I, a stranger was getting all of her attention.

After about 30 seconds of this I said to her "Well it was nice talking to you, I'll let you join your friends." and I got up to leave. She stands up as well and says, "Nice meeting you." and reaches out and shakes my hand.

If her friends had not come along I would have probably been able to do a number close. Because I am in practice mode these days I am not worried about closing.

I was amazed at how effective openers are on women.

Has anyone had success with openers? Which ones work best for you?
soo...how do you do the spells opener?..
 

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C'mon guys...do not worry about this "spells" opener. He could have just easily have asked the girl what she was writing. He had two things going for him: 1. she was in a good mood and 2. she didn't think he was creepy or maybe even found him attractive

it's that simple really.
 

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Ok I'll post the spells opener. I think chicks really dig it.

THE SPELLS OPENER.

YOU: Excuse me, I have a strange question for you. Do you believe in spells?

Wait for an answer from the lady. Yes, no, maybe.

YOU: The reason I ask is because I have a friend who went on a date with this girl and she came over to his apartment to watch a movie. They both watched the movie on his couch and afterward she went home, nothing happened.

Well the next day he was cleaning up his apartment and he finds this scroll under his couch. This scroll is really strange, he's never seen anything like it before. It's all decorated and tied up with a bow with a feather sticking out of the middle.

So my friend open it up and tries to read it but he can't, it's in some strange language that he can't understand.

My friend took the scroll to a guy that knows how to read these kind of things and this guy tells my friend that it's a love spell.

What do you think of that?

Let her give you her opinion. Does she believe it or not, etc.

YOU: Well here is the funny part of this story. Now my friend can't stop thinking about this girl. He sees women that look like her all over the city, he sees girls on TV and he thinks of her. He can't stop thinking about her. Is that crazy or what?

Let her talk. If you give the opener with enough energy and astonishment and if the girl finds it interesting she will probably have a lot to say.

So, someone give it a try out in the field and let me hear if you get a good response.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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