"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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SilverSonnet

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Wouldn't you like to know? ;)
I mainly talk to and flirt with girls on MSN. I recently got 2 numbers (score for me :D). Woah! Just had an "twilight zone moment". Crazy how much confident I have, Last december would have been a pvssy :D
So...anyway back on topic. I chat to girls through MSN, and my personality doesn't shine through. Do you guys think I should cut MSN out, only using it for number or telling them if we're going out etc?

In all honesty, i spend about 4 hours a day on my Laptop (not including coursework, which I'm meant to be doing now:nervous: )
So, also, do you guys think I should cut back on Laptop altogether?


Lil' Ben ;)
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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spax

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Dont talk to girls on msn. Sad. Plus you're 14. Go meet in real life. You're young. You have time to.
 
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SilverSonnet said:
I mainly talk to and flirt with girls on MSN. I recently got 2 numbers (score for me :D). Woah! Just had an "twilight zone moment". Crazy how much confident I have, Last december would have been a pvssy :D
So...anyway back on topic. I chat to girls through MSN, and my personality doesn't shine through. Do you guys think I should cut MSN out, only using it for number or telling them if we're going out etc?

In all honesty, i spend about 4 hours a day on my Laptop (not including coursework, which I'm meant to be doing now:nervous: )
So, also, do you guys think I should cut back on Laptop altogether?


Lil' Ben ;)

Post some of your chat logs let's see how you're doing.
 

SinJester

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Lol shouldn't have posted this in the DJ forum. In high school, EVERYONE uses MSN, especially hot girls. At least where I'm from. One good looking girl told me that she thinks MSN is a great way to get to know people better. Let's be honest, in real life how often do you get to talk to people one on one and really get to know them?

There has to be some rules though. Like never talk to a girl heaps on MSN and fail to talk to her in person. Don't spend too much time on it, that's always bad.

I would be a hypocrit if I told you not to use it. One time I literally managed to seduce a girl almost entirely on msn. Huge rapport and attraction too. But I didn't have the outer or inner game to follow through back then, and even though I used every DJ 'tactic' in the book as well as building rapport I screwed it up and ended up just friends. Luckily I was at a point where I got over it quickly, it affected me for as long time but I didn't realize to recently. That's going off on a tangent though.

What I'm trying to get at is be congrunt with who you are off MSN and on it or it might not work out. You can't be ****y and 'outgoing' on MSN but shy in real life. Also girls will probably project lots of good traits onto you if they don't know the real you and this will cause them to lose interest when you don't live up to expectations (AKA being a normal guy).

In my opinion it's best to get to know a girl a bit offline first and spend a decent amount of time with her and then get her e-mail and chat online. As long as she's had enough time to see the 'real you', or how you act in real life around other people. You'l be right if you aren't faking it.

You say your personality doesn't come through and that might be true but I find it easy it a lot of cases to have almost perfect game on MSN. Of course you are missing a lot of parts and this causes projection but it does create a good image of you. Reminds me one time when I lightly negged a girl on MSN and she took it the wrong way and told me to f-off, was a one time incident and I just found it funny.

I was actually going to make a thread about this but I decided to stick with my own inititive. You should do the same. I would say to cut back the laptop but I need to do that too, a lot. People will disagree with some of what I said but that's my opinion and I'm going to stick with it. MSN and text messaging are a real and common part of teenagers social lives these days, we just have to adapt to it and not overdo it.
 

WesCottII

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Dude, it's your choice. If being on the computer makes you happy, so be it. It's not for us to tell you "well, a Dj shouldn't use his computer for more than 20 mins a day".

Make your own decisions bud.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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