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Meeting women on the train, is it doable??

JHeights83rd

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Precision, how old are you? The age matters. When i was living in NYC, the demographic of girls that i was going for, do not give out their #. Like all my friends, between 16 - 19 yrs old didnt give out their #, they might be friendly and talk but no #. Girls in NY over the age of 16 are never alone. Approaching girls in a group is impossible, unless one of them 'chooses' you. If you just go up to a group and hit them with a line, your like butting into their bussiness. You have to start out on a courtesy level with NYC girls, but dont throw a lot of ****y funny stuff b/c youll weird them out. NYC is a fast life, and girls are busy chilling with their lives they already got, so avoid groups, make sure she chooses you, and approach on a courtesy level. After getting the #, calling her, is a b!+c#. Its damn hard to get her when shes not doing something. A girls interest is not that strong when you pick them up on the train, its more closer to neutral, and whether pook says it or not, she is the prize, (dont think that to urself but thats how it is) whether she lets you into her life depends entirely on her. When the girls get older, and less time chilling, and more into career, it might get easier, and women might be looking for some fun. So if your 19 and over, youre good, but under that, youre gonna have some frustrated fun, trying this.

This is not a very common way to meet people in NYC, mostly people meet through chilling (friends and family) so when you approach her, youre making her the prize, the only way to even it out, is if she thinks you look sexy. (not c+f, neg hitting, push pull) These pua techniques dont really work on girls in NYC. just have something intersting to talk about.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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JHeights83rd said:
Precision, how old are you? The age matters. When i was living in NYC, the demographic of girls that i was going for, do not give out their #. Like all my friends, between 16 - 19 yrs old didnt give out their #, they might be friendly and talk but no #. Girls in NY over the age of 16 are never alone. Approaching girls in a group is impossible, unless one of them 'chooses' you. If you just go up to a group and hit them with a line, your like butting into their bussiness. You have to start out on a courtesy level with NYC girls, but dont throw a lot of ****y funny stuff b/c youll weird them out. NYC is a fast life, and girls are busy chilling with their lives they already got, so avoid groups, make sure she chooses you, and approach on a courtesy level. After getting the #, calling her, is a b!+c#. Its damn hard to get her when shes not doing something. A girls interest is not that strong when you pick them up on the train, its more closer to neutral, and whether pook says it or not, she is the prize, (dont think that to urself but thats how it is) whether she lets you into her life depends entirely on her. When the girls get older, and less time chilling, and more into career, it might get easier, and women might be looking for some fun. So if your 19 and over, youre good, but under that, youre gonna have some frustrated fun, trying this.

This is not a very common way to meet people in NYC, mostly people meet through chilling (friends and family) so when you approach her, youre making her the prize, the only way to even it out, is if she thinks you look sexy. (not c+f, neg hitting, push pull) These pua techniques dont really work on girls in NYC. just have something intersting to talk about.
It's funny you mention the age, I'm actually 18 going on 19 this October. Since you were actually in NY what are some good spots to practice? I'm still gonna give it a go on the train, said it before never hurts to try. I do actually see a lot of girls that are alone on the train, in the middle of the day none the less.

It's true I did meet most of the people I know now at School and outside through friends and family, mostly because I wasn't one to approach people. But thats gotta change.
 

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No, this doesnt have to change, most guys havent done it that way, they might lie to you (and themselves) and tell you they did it. But do you ever see it happen?
That’s good that you see girls alone. You probably wanna holler at the Hispanic girls. Im I right? These girls of our age have strong b*tch shields, don’t like the idea of being picked up by some guy on the train, because it makes them feel desperate. Hispanic girls prefer to meet guys through their block, chilling, family and friends, not at parties, bars, online, and in the street. Just be prepared for some frustration. Majority of girls would rather not meet a guy in the street like that, and they might just give you their # for attention. When you meet girls in those ways, theyre likely to flake, just because they chill and they think much more about the guy they meet from chilling, then you. And its hard to call a girl and shes not doing anything.

So no, you don’t have to do it this way, and I wouldn’t recommend it, unless you have no other options. Plus youre not around women a lot, so you might want to get some experience with women first. So does it hurt to try? I don’t know, for me and my friends that have tried to do it, just a lot of frustration.

Its not really meeting the girl that girls have a problem with, its giving the #. Think about it, would you give your # to an army recruiter. That’s what its kind of like from the girls’ side, this guy randomly talking to her, wants to get in her pants. When you get older, some women become easier to pick up, because theyre alone, and not chilling all the time. This was me and my friends’ experience, and Ive never seen anybody get a # from a girl except me, and ive seen a lot of guys get deaded. You might have a different experience, if you do, send me a pm let me know, so when I come home from college, I can try again.
 

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JHeights83rd said:
That’s good that you see girls alone. You probably wanna holler at the Hispanic girls. Im I right? These girls of our age have strong b*tch shields, don’t like the idea of being picked up by some guy on the train, because it makes them feel desperate. Hispanic girls prefer to meet guys through their block, chilling, family and friends, not at parties, bars, online, and in the street. Just be prepared for some frustration. Majority of girls would rather not meet a guy in the street like that, and they might just give you their # for attention. When you meet girls in those ways, theyre likely to flake, just because they chill and they think much more about the guy they meet from chilling, then you. And its hard to call a girl and shes not doing anything.

So no, you don’t have to do it this way, and I wouldn’t recommend it, unless you have no other options. Plus youre not around women a lot, so you might want to get some experience with women first. So does it hurt to try? I don’t know, for me and my friends that have tried to do it, just a lot of frustration.

Its not really meeting the girl that girls have a problem with, its giving the #. Think about it, would you give your # to an army recruiter. That’s what its kind of like from the girls’ side, this guy randomly talking to her, wants to get in her pants. When you get older, some women become easier to pick up, because theyre alone, and not chilling all the time. This was me and my friends’ experience, and Ive never seen anybody get a # from a girl except me, and ive seen a lot of guys get deaded. You might have a different experience, if you do, send me a pm let me know, so when I come home from college, I can try again.
I see where you're coming from. Actually race/ethnic background/nationality means nothing to me. A girls a girl regardless of where they come from. Leaving all the options open, they might not wanna be with someone outta there ethnic background, but hey everyones got their own taste. Around here there are a lotta hispanic girls.

Actually about being around women, I am around women a lot. Thats what I was saying, I've grown accustom to being around women. I don't have to think about what to say or what to do anymore. I took time off from focusing on getting women just to be able to accomplish what I did, simply being myself around 'em.

If it doesn't work out at least I can say i got over this so called "fear" that i have. In my eyes right now it's a win-win situation.:up: If i do come up with a number, I'll let you know I'll be posting that cause it would be a first.
 

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PrEcIsIoN22 said:
Well I've been thinking and I do spend a lot of time on the train living in NY. I'm on the train for at least 2 hours almost everyday of the week. I always see HB's on the train but I dont know if its the right time or place. As you can tell im new to the whole thing. Any and all advice, ideas, etc... are welcome.
-Precision

Yeah, that is a wonderful setting to start off in. Sit across from one and start a conversation.

A simple "how's it going?" should be all that's needed to get it going.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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No, this doesnt have to change, most guys havent done it that way, they might lie to you (and themselves) and tell you they did it. But do you ever see it happen?
That’s good that you see girls alone. You probably wanna holler at the Hispanic girls. Im I right? These girls of our age have strong b*tch shields, don’t like the idea of being picked up by some guy on the train, because it makes them feel desperate. Hispanic girls prefer to meet guys through their block, chilling, family and friends, not at parties, bars, online, and in the street. Just be prepared for some frustration. Majority of girls would rather not meet a guy in the street like that, and they might just give you their # for attention. When you meet girls in those ways, theyre likely to flake, just because they chill and they think much more about the guy they meet from chilling, then you. And its hard to call a girl and shes not doing anything.

So no, you don’t have to do it this way, and I wouldn’t recommend it, unless you have no other options. Plus youre not around women a lot, so you might want to get some experience with women first. So does it hurt to try? I don’t know, for me and my friends that have tried to do it, just a lot of frustration.

Its not really meeting the girl that girls have a problem with, its giving the #. Think about it, would you give your # to an army recruiter. That’s what its kind of like from the girls’ side, this guy randomly talking to her, wants to get in her pants. When you get older, some women become easier to pick up, because theyre alone, and not chilling all the time. This was me and my friends’ experience, and Ive never seen anybody get a # from a girl except me, and ive seen a lot of guys get deaded. You might have a different experience, if you do, send me a pm let me know, so when I come home from college, I can try again.
I think you're being pessimistic for no reason.

You're army recruiter analogy is simply inaccurate. The truth is that women and men are BOTH looking for each other, constantly. You don't have to be "chilling" as you put it in order for an interaction to occur.

Success is largely determined by the mindset you go in thinking about it. I suggest going out and trying mroe cold approaches. Seems like you've been jaded by bad responses!
 

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I really really can't understand how anyone picks up on the train during rush hour. I mean most of the chicks I see on London trains are either reading, or listening to music.

Also, the trains are pretty much always packed! and no one talks to anyone else! so if you go up to a HB and start talking to her, it looks and feels really lame because you just know that everyone on the carriage is going to turn around, look at you, listen to what you say AND think "ha ha! look at that guy trying to pick up that girl!"

The only time I have been able to successfully chat up and number close a girl on the train has been late at night where i'm slightly tipsy and the carriage is more empty.

Fash....i am suprised....I thought you of all people would understand that what other people think doesnt mean ****. Who cares if every other AFC on the train thinks HAHAHA. You got more balls than them.... I have pulled on a train before. I had a mate get on at the next stop and he thought she was a friend of mine. I had just met her. Thats how clued in everyone else will be.

I know the rush hour trains in london are about as lively as a graveyard. Doesnt mean you cant intiate convosation. I bet you 80% of the people on those trains would rather be talking than just sitting there. The people listerning to music..Treat them as if they are not there. They cant hear you and you cant really convo with them. A girl with a book.....I would think "oh **book name** i was thinking of buying that, is it any good?" aint a bad open. Took 10 seconds to think up. Im sure i would come up with better involing the surronding enviroment.

Anyways....everyone sitting in silence. doing the routine. I would rather be in convo with a girl.
 

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This really is a lot of encouragement to get out and do it, which I will. I'm hoping to make my first approach next week. I'm home today and my face feels like it's about to fall off with these damn allergies. Let's see how I feel tmrw then I can start a lil journal of my own.

WORKEROUTER, That really is a simple enough opener, just gotta keep the convo going without too many lulls in the convo.

Tomatoes, Thanks again for the words. It's true I can't think about what people are thinking cause chances are I won't ever see them again and even if I do, I'm not gonna remember them.

Finally something too do besides listening to music.
 
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