"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Hey. My first post here, but have read the forum periodically for a while. Tried doing a search before posting but just got errors....So onto my question.

How would you approach dating a married but separated woman? playing with fire, I know. What is the mindframe for such a scenario? We are both 30. I'm used to dating 24-year old chicks with no worries. She has agreed to meet up with me but it's like I don't know if I'm missing some other **** I should be doing or not doing. Any thoughts appreciated.

(added from below) Guess I should clarify I came into contact with this one on a dating site (first meet in the works, which is why i'm here). She initiated contact. In her first message to me, she gave me this detailed rundown about how they grew apart, separated about half a year ago, and she has her own place now, etc. Based on the level of detail she gave me about it, I decided to break my rule not to mess with these situations....still a lot of fire to play with is what I'm hearing
 
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"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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krysalis said:
How would you approach dating a married but separated woman? playing with fire, I know. What is the mindframe for such a scenario?
Playing with fire for sure.

But as a guy who was been there, done that, providing you don't have any hang ups about banging some other guys girl, I can't think of any major differences.

It is just as important, if not more so, to keep it in a s*xual frame if you want to keep banging her for as long as possible, since any move that puts things between you (in her mind) towards a conventional realtionship (e.g. if she was single) will force her to choose, and it is likely you (the fling) will be dumped.

krysalis said:
She has agreed to meet up with me but it's like I don't know if I'm missing some other **** I should be doing or not doing. Any thoughts appreciated.
Only you know whether this meet up has been arranged in a manner conducive to friendship or s*x.

Were you teasing her or somehow making your interest in her known?

The meet up location should also be so as to faciliate s*xual escalation.

NO DINNER OR BORING CONVERSATIONS. Instead focus on a couple of drinks (to get her in the mood and relax her inhibitions) and opportunities for kino. And escalate.

No married woman would meet up with some guy who is not her husband, without the idea that s*x may happen. In fact, if she has agreed to meet up, she wants it to happen.


EDIT: Didn't see in the original message how she was "separated" until Falcon mentioned it in his post.

My advice still stands. All is fair in love and war, but realise THAT IT COULD PUT YOUR LIFE IN DANGER IF YOU ARE NOT CAREFUL.
 

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This is a great way to get killed. Do you have a death wish? I've done this before. You know what seperated means? It could mean he is sleeping in the other room. If he is the jealous type, and he finds out she is cheating, he may kill both of you.

Or, you could fall for someone who is MARRIED. Tell her to get her papers and then call you. Tell her you will fuvk her brains out when she gets the papers. Until then, go find a single girl for fuvks sake. What is this shivt?

This is not a good idea. I would never do this again. She has to be divorced. It is also bad karma. I'm sorry but I have other shivt to worry about then to see if she is being followed. If he follows her, which he will, you are fuvked. Assume the worse. YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW A MAN WILL REACT TO SOMEONE FUVKING HIS WIFE.

You only fuvk married women if 1)hopefully you don't know they are married 2) if you do know, ON THE BASIS THAT YOU WILL NEVER SEE THEM AGAIN ON THIS GOD'S GREEN EARTH. ONE AND DONE.
 

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i was on the subway & in the next car a guy was checking out another guys wife. the married man pulled out a gun and shot him right in the chest. I didnt see it but i heard the screams and sat on the train till the boys showed, later the news said the bullet destroyed his breast bone and entered his heart....food for though....
 

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I got caught up with a woman who was separated once. While we were f**king, the hubby comes in and swings a metal bat like he's using an ax to split wood! I had to escape, especially since I dodged one of the swings and it broke his wife's wrist. I escaped by taking a chair and throwing it to bust out a window. I was able to climb out safely and drive off.

I try to avoid married and separated women. One time (Age 18) I ran around trying to get with this married milf who stayed across the street from me and got my feelings hurt. I am glad that we had a talk about the whole thing and that she still loves me.

What I know is that married and separated women will show interest in you and sometimes won't acknowledge the fact that they're married if they find you attractive. Happened to me in the above paragraph. But I developed feelings. Not good. Just understand that this could be a death trap.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Really appreciate it guys. sobering. Guess I should clarify I came into contact with this one on a dating site (first meet in the works, which is why i'm here). She initiated contact. In her first message to me, she gave me this detailed rundown about how they grew apart, separated about half a year ago, and she has her own place now, etc. Based on the level of detail she gave me about it, I decided to break my rule not to mess with these situations....still a lot of fire to play with is what I'm hearing
 

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This is all good advice here, Krys.

There are also a lot of married men that would be happy to just have some poor bastard take the ***** off his hands. That's the other side to the married life.

So, it's a bit of a crap shoot, or rather, Russian Roulette. If you must, meet her in a far-away town and make it a one-time stand. That's (hopefully) what she's looking for, anyway.
 

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krysalis said:
How would you approach dating a married but separated woman? playing with fire, I know.
I'd approach it like this; I'd see how far away from her I could say.

Up until the point there are not ample amounts of single, non-divorced women, a DJ will have no concern with married women or divorced women. If you want advice on how to be AFC though, that's not my area of expertise.

I'd work on your self esteem if I were you, or whatever part of you that thinks you can't find a hot, single woman.
 

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Thanks for all the perspectives. I value all you guys' opinions. Amante - Thanks for the input. Appreciated.
 

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Wait until it's sorted out. Seriously - it's not worth the hassle.

Why? Emotionally you're going to have to accept for a while he can get her attention at the worst possible time. Even if she doesn't feel anything for him he'll still be able to reach in and change everything you've got. And she will feel something for him...else she's an emotionless evil cow. And unless she gets this sorted properly, he'll ALWAYS be able to do that. Major red flag fella!

And one last image... When my team got back from Helmand in '06, one of my team members found out his missus had been having an affair. We left him in...quite a state...

Be careful. Short term pleasure...long term pain.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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krysalis said:
Thanks for all the perspectives. I value all you guys' opinions. Amante - Thanks for the input. Appreciated.
Did you read the answer you were looking for?? Go find a single woman and stop being an idiot.
 
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