"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Manipulative girl???

JoeSchmoe05

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Need some advice on what to do:

Girl with boyfriend has huge crush on me...

Although I am not yet great friends with the boyfriend, I like him a lot and consider him a good person, so I decide to ignore the girl literally in hopes she'll give up, even though I find her attractive...

BTW, the boyfriend knows whats going on the whole time, but neither of them initiate a breakup. I wasn't going to touch her until they did. And if they didn't, that meant to me there was still something between them.

Takes 6 months for her to realize I'm not interested... finally gets it once I indirectly tell her I was at one point interested in her but didn't do anything because I didn't want to screw with their relationship... she gets all sad and depressed...

A week later, she is back to trying to act interested in me... smiling... trying to be near me... never actually comes up and talks to me but does everything she can up to that point.

I think she's being manipulative... trying to make her boyfriend super jealous, or trying to get me to like her again to make herself feel good. Maybe creating drama cuz she is afraid her life will be boring without it. I just don't know...

I would like to figure out what is going on however. Either she is doing one of the above negative things... or perhaps she just can't get over me. I'm hoping she just a hopelessly infatuated girl. I'd hate to continue to treat her the way I have been if thats the case.

I also have a FEW doubts about her boyfriend. Honestly, what guy would put with this crap... this girl has had a crush on me during their whole relationship, and even beforehand. It's caused them a great deal of strain... Why would he continue to be with her when she seemingly can't stop thinking of me? Are they both trying to play a game here?

Any tips on how to find this out? I was going to start stop ignoring her and try to play the friends angle and see how she reacts.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Here's a tip: THIS CHICK IS LAME!! She's got a bf and if she's only with him to get to you, that's shady!!! Your just the flavor of the week bro, and since you've kept up your mystery all this time she wants what she can't have. Once she knows she can have you, she'll use you and find another chump to play her little game on. Trust me girls who are willing to cheat are usually fuvked in the head, have tons of other problems and will only bring headaches to your life. My advice: STAY AWAY!! Tell her nothing's going to happen and to get over it. If she breaks up with her man, then fuvk her like the w-hore she is and be done with it.


Your looking for quality but your only finding drama.



PIMP
 

JoeSchmoe05

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hehe, i appreciate the opinion you gave pimp. This girl does have some unique aspects though that make me still wonder what to do:

A) This crush has lasted for four years... their relationship only 1.5.
B) Her obsession with me has caused a rift between them... yet they continue to stay together. I know through sources that I am litterally the man of her dreams.
C) This girl is shy, conservative, and although very adorable, hasn't had much success with guys because she is too reserved. This boyfriend she is with happens to be a very funny guy and really knows how to push her buttons. He managed to open her up and made me realize there's a sweet girl inside.

These thoughts of manipulation are only recent to me. There are two possibilities like I mentioned earlier... she either can't let go... can't accept that I don't want her. Or, she accepts it, and is now trying to use the situation to her advantage to create drama, mess with her boyfriend, etc. A week ago I would have thought this unlikely, but now I wonder. She may be emotionally messed up enough by all this drama to make her do crazy things.

Its possible she never broke up with this guy for fear of rejection. By staying with him until she was sure I might go out with her, she guaranteed herself that she'd at least have someone. Amazing the **** this guy has gone through. He knows perfectly well that she likes me. There were times when I thought maybe he wanted me to take her off her hands, but I also know for a fact that he loves her very much. He's a smart and funny guy. He can have any girl he wants. Yet he stays with her. That is why I've been doing what I've been doing. This guy is fantastic, a great person... although I would never do what he is doing. I'd have dumped the girl 6 months ago.

She is still going after me now though... very hard for me to believe what I'm seeing. I've had girls obsessed with me... but after four years of ignoring her for various reasons... I dunno most girls give up by that point. That is what is making me wonder. She can't possibly be THAT infatuated with me?????????? But its entirely possible given the girl that she is.
 
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