"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Making them leave

Kailex

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Over the past few months, I've found myself having the same problem with different women. I seem to know WHY I am having this problem and I did find a few solutions to it, but I'm morbidly curious as to what others here have done to solve this "issue".

You see, a few months ago I started caring less about results and caring more about just enjoying life in general. Ever since then, I've been having greater success.

Now the "problem" is that sometimes I'll pull and there are instances where they will stay over. Apparently some of them inherited the "lazy Sunday" attitude where they will try to lounge around in my apartment and linger.

At first, this was a bit problematic for me because I wasn't too comfortable with the idea of just telling someone to leave. So I'd try to drop subtle hints and try my best to get them out of there. Now, I just try to go to her place and then not even stay over. In the off-chance someone does stay over with me, I'll just take a shower and get dressed and let them know that I am in fact doing other things that day...

Ever since I've done this, things have been even better and I've yet to "technically" kick anyone out.

How have you guys solved this "problem"?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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When I was just hooking up with girls I would usually just tell them I had stuff to do the next day, then start to get ready. Sometimes though I would get the clinger who would literally stay till I walked out the door. Usually I had nothing special to do and I just wanted them to leave, lol. I think the best way to handle it is prophylaxis. Just tell them "sure, you can stay over, but I have X to do early tomorrow...", or stay at her place so you just bounce.
 

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What I do, if I had them over at my place, is tell them "C'mon now sweetheart... go do your things..." while giving them a light spank on their butt to make them get out of bed.

I would start getting dressed myself letting her know indirectly that she also needed to start getting dressed and be on her way. If I brought them over, I start looking for my car/bike keys "Where are my car/bike keys? I need to get you home so that you do your things..."

When I go to a girl's place, I just leave.
 

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Great thread!

I hate it when they won't leave. Have stopped bringing girls back to my apartment because I don't want them hanging around the next day, ruining my Sunday.

I've always found it hard getting them to leave though. Maybe after banging them silly the night before it seemed a bit rude to tell them to haul their asses out of there. No more though. Think going to their place is best option, then sneaking out like a thief in the night, heh heh.
 

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Miles28 said:
Great thread!

I hate it when they won't leave. Have stopped bringing girls back to my apartment because I don't want them hanging around the next day, ruining my Sunday.

I've always found it hard getting them to leave though. Maybe after banging them silly the night before it seemed a bit rude to tell them to haul their
asses out of there. No more though. Think going to their place is best option, then sneaking out like a thief in the night, heh heh.
Yeah, that seems to work best.

I can "cuddle" for like a half-hour at most after sex, and that's if I REALLY like the girl. But after a while, it just gets old. They get that oxytocin-kick and want to "fall asleep in your arms".

I've only ever had one girl "stay the night" and that's only because she was too drunk to drive home.

Yeah, most of them get bent out of shape if you "kick them out of bed"...maybe that's why I always try to f**k on the couch. I've found that it's easier to get them to go home if they aren't snuggled up in your bed...maybe it's because people use beds to sleep and once they get to the bed, they expect to be sleeping there. I've had a couple of girls go to tears after being kicked out of bed, but never for being kicked off the couch. :p

As you said, going over her place is probably the better alternative.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Ironic Kailex.

I think alot of guys on this site would like to actually have this problem.

Good advice however has already been given.
 

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Point taken, 5-String.

Funny how situations evolve over time and the problems of yesterday are simply the after-thoughts of tomorrow.
 

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squirrels said:
I've only ever had one girl "stay the night" and that's only because she was too drunk to drive home.

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First time back on SoSuave for a while. Is this thread for real? I'm not suprised chicks think guys are d1cks.

And Squirrels, your 31 right, and you've only ever had ONE girl stay the night! and your on here bragging about it.

:rock:
 

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man, if she's any GOOD, I curl up with her until I just HAVE to go do something else! :) you guys don't know a good thing when you see it. No wonder there are so many man-hating women in the US. Sheesh! If she wasn't any good, she is gone early on in the night, no waiting until the next day.
 

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I pretend I have somewhere to be. Walk down the stairs with her, walk around the block, get a coffee to go, get back home. :)
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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squirrels said:
Yeah, that seems to work best.

I can "cuddle" for like a half-hour at most after sex, and that's if I REALLY like the girl. But after a while, it just gets old. They get that oxytocin-kick and want to "fall asleep in your arms".

I've only ever had one girl "stay the night" and that's only because she was too drunk to drive home.

Yeah, most of them get bent out of shape if you "kick them out of bed"...maybe that's why I always try to f**k on the couch. I've found that it's easier to get them to go home if they aren't snuggled up in your bed...maybe it's because people use beds to sleep and once they get to the bed, they expect to be sleeping there. I've had a couple of girls go to tears after being kicked out of bed, but never for being kicked off the couch. :p

As you said, going over her place is probably the better alternative.
You seriously kicked girls out of bed and brought them to tears?

Wow, why did you ever want to be with her in the first place? You can at least not mess her up like that, how much more insulting can you get?
 

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I like to just fvck em in the club, that way I can just go get a drink after and find another one Zzzzzzzzzz
 

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englishman said:
First time back on SoSuave for a while. Is this thread for real? I'm not suprised chicks think guys are d1cks.
Especially those helmet-headed c0cksmokers who disappear then come back to start dumb sh!t.

And Squirrels, your 31 right, and you've only ever had ONE girl stay the night! and your on here bragging about it.

:rock:
And Helmet-head, you're (note the correct usage "English-man") full of sh!t and you're (note again, proper punctuation) on here bragging about it.

Clean up your own goddamned **** before you think you're ( <---) going to fvck with someone else.

I love these fake, badass types who're too ignorant to see their own ignorance.
 

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englishman said:
I like to just fvck em in the club, that way I can just go get a drink after and find another one Zzzzzzzzzz
If it smells like sh!t...

...and spells like ****...

...it must be...
 

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KarmaSutra said:
Especially those helmet-headed c0cksmokers who disappear then come back to start dumb sh!t.



And Helmet-head, you're (note the correct usage "English-man") full of sh!t and you're (note again, proper punctuation) on here bragging about it.

Clean up your own goddamned **** before you think you're ( <---) going to fvck with someone else.

I love these fake, badass types who're too ignorant to see their own ignorance.

KarmaSutra I think your a bit ManTel



Gurkha warlord WTF me thinks your a dungeons and dragons geek who dont get to see much real live pvssy.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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KarmaSutra said:
Especially those helmet-headed c0cksmokers who disappear then come back to start dumb sh!t.



And Helmet-head, you're (note the correct usage "English-man") full of sh!t and you're (note again, proper punctuation) on here bragging about it.

Clean up your own goddamned **** before you think you're ( <---) going to fvck with someone else.

I love these fake, badass types who're too ignorant to see their own ignorance.

Your really good at spelling and I know thats what really makes for a bad ass ladies man. If only I could learn to fvcin spell, I know I could get laid too.
 

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Whenever this comes up, I just hitch 'em a ride home on my way to doing whatever it is I need to do, or give cab fare if it's out of the way.

I guess I just don't hook up with the type to get really pissy about that kind of thing.

I really don't see many women (at least, no sane women) giving you sh*t for not making them a set of keys, dude. You're in the clear.
 

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1. Go to parent's house and steal a family portrait photo.
2. After finished smashing girl, pull out the family portrait and tell her, "You need to leave now, my parents will be home any minute."
3. Enjoy the rest of your evening by yourself in a Cal King Bed.
 
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