"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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lying HB, should i push for the truth?

drift king

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this HB who i met about 3 weeks ago who i had an unexpected action date with cos i played tennis with her about an hour after our meet..

it went ok we had fun but i didn't do any heavy kino when the opportunity arose.. i felt like i was getting LJBF'd.

anyway i felt i lost her so i punted some long message which seemed to work in my favour where she literally was like 'if i still have a chance i'd like to meet up again..' i think she was just kissing up to me to test if i'd walk away or not. and i failed.

she went abroad for a week then cancels on me last min saying 'hey, listen i'm back wednesday night at 10pm and i think i'll go away on thursday.'

we were suppose to meet that particular wednesday at 8pm so i took it as a double flake cos she didn't even offer another time.

now i call her today and she has the cheek to tell me she just got back an hour ago. i'm 'suppose' to meet up with her tomorrow evening (but she'll probably flake knowing her..) is it worth my time pressing her as to why she came back yesterday as she said when she text me a week ago that she was back last wednesday?

i did so many things wrong.. i said let's meet up maybe at 7pm tomorrow i'll give u a call.. (i seem to do this a lot. im not decisive and assertive when time closing. i think she just wanted to play tennis again and im getting truly LJBF'd.

is it even worth my time getting her out a 2nd time to see if i can act differently?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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yep typical.. i've been LJBF'd.. it seems like she needs a tennis partner more than anything else so i've been forced into this friendzone position which makes me mad..

i called her just now.. didn't know what to say cos we were suppose to meet tonight and made major mistakes almost saying i only needed her to come out for an hour.. god what a stupid afc thing to do..

then i muted to meet up monday when she's back but she keeps pushing it towards playing tennis.. so i have to just next her?

i've met her once.. i could see how it works out but i feel auto-ljbf'd.
 

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That word you used "auto-LJBF" is right on the dot man. Women do that all the time. I don't even think that they do it on purpose. Women automatically divide men into two catergories of being attracted to and not being attracted to(LJBF). This process begins as soon as they meet you. Right at the very first word you say to them,the clock starts ticking as to where you will be placed. If you don't show any kind of interested at all or if you wait too long,you'll fall into the friendzone by default. In fact,if you let her know that you are romantically interested in her from the get-go,and she rejects you, you'll still be better off than falling into the friendzone. Even though she rejected you,at least you are in the "potential" boyfriend catergory. At least there is still potential. With the friendzone,you don't have even that.

If you show interest from the beginning and she's not interested,she'll just reject you. But if you're in the friendzone,then you show interest,she'll feel like she wants to vomit,because it'll feel like almost being approached by her brother. I'd rather date a girl than be rejected,but I'd rather be rejected than be friendzoned.
 

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Dude, I know it's hard to take the hint sometimes. But you gotta take that hint man and roll with it. You did way to much chasing and that kind of thing will just chase her further away. You would have had the best chances nexting her after the first time she flaked on you, instead of creating an 'eww' effect.
 
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