"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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legolas

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It's amazing how tighlty wrapped in his head you must be to believe completely that this is what actually happens:

Once again the keys to the lay were:
-Direct approach and giving great compliments.
-Mild c+f, to make her laugh
-Frame control
-Open loops - pleasant surprises
-Dressing uniquely confidently.
-Slow, romantic kino
-Conversational attraction techniques
-Telling her what to wear
-Extensive pregaming on phone
-Tight qualification, understanding of her reality - cold reads
-Having her drive out to my place (one hour), subtle prize frame
-Setting frame right in the beginning - telling her we'll have a wonderful romantic night together, no rules
-Strong eye contact
-Planning and leading evening - creating a fantasy world for her, that she's never experienced before.
-Absolute honesty - telling her I teach workshops BEFORE I went for lay.
-Relaxation and visualizations an hour before we met up. (Remembering all the times women wanted me or I was successful, over and over)
-Dominance - caveman-esque kino when going for the lay.
-Inducing a trance state by going into trance myself while looking into her eyes, and then giving her a significant SOI.
-Screening questions as a means of connecting and learning about one another.
How come everything you did was a key to the lay? Were you in her head? Maybe inside there she just said, "Man I gotta get laid tonight and this guy will do" I thought the word key meant that there was usually one or two things that made the absolute difference between you getting laid and you not getting laid. I think you just got lost on this mental masturbation algorithm too much because your ego was absolutely tickled when you were able to have sex with her so quickly. She provided the physical pleasure, and the above calculus provided the mental pleasure :D

To your credit, having a mental framework to work with which leads to results, but does not neccessarily cause these reults, is a good thing for many guys to have because it tells them what they should be doing next instead of them sitting there and being mute.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Hey Legolas,

It's true, it's possible that she was just looking to get laid with a random guy. But, the overwhleming probability is that these things contributed to Woodhaven's lay.

The guys who do all the things on this list get laid much more than guys who don't. They are all field tested to get results. The fact that he got laid just goes to show that he executed these things well.

95% of the time, it's not just random chance when you get laid. You are getting laid because the girl is attracted to you, which is caused mostly by what you do when you're around her. Breaking it down into small things helps guys see what works, so they know what aspects of their personality they have to develop.

-Dan
 

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Originally posted by Spirit Fingers
Something which you should know are that Natural Game, the system which Woodhaven, Dimitri, and I use is nothing like the game used by most of ASF.
You're an instructor for Woodhaven and Dimitri?
 

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Originally posted by Spirit Fingers
Hey Legolas,

It's true, it's possible that she was just looking to get laid with a random guy. But, the overwhleming probability is that these things contributed to Woodhaven's lay.

The guys who do all the things on this list get laid much more than guys who don't. They are all field tested to get results. The fact that he got laid just goes to show that he executed these things well.

95% of the time, it's not just random chance when you get laid. You are getting laid because the girl is attracted to you, which is caused mostly by what you do when you're around her. Breaking it down into small things helps guys see what works, so they know what aspects of their personality they have to develop.

-Dan
Thanks for pointing it out. The main thing I have a problem with, is that when guys go out and try to do all these things at once, well they feel like they're forcing it and it doesn't come out as naturally. I know, I did it before and it left me looking stupid at imes.

The details are not bad, but IMO they are irrelevant when you're out there and should only be seen when the LR is reverse engineered :D Trying to take these details and put them back together to generate game doesn't really work. And then we have guys who go "well I did X, which Woodhaven said would work, and nothing happened"

It's nice to pick the LR apart and feel good about it, (get a nice ego boost) but it should be seen for what it is, inspirational story rather than instructions on what to do.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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I agree with you that guys shouldn't try to do all of these things at once. TD has a good post on this -- if you want to improve your game, you should only focus consciously on one or two aspects of it at a time. This way, you still seem natural, but you also are improving.

I feel LRs like this are valuable because the fundamental premise of sites like these are that it IS possible to improve your game through doing the right things. Through my personal experience, I've improved my game tremendously through learning some basic technique, mindsets, and attitudes, and then going out in the field until I could implement all of them naturally.

It is hard to convey all the subtleties of an interaction through a text report though. I agree that if you do what Woodhaven wrote down without doing the subtle things which are too numerous to write up in a report, you won't get his level of success. You'll get more, but not as much as you could of if you'd seen it in real life. I think that although they're not the ideal learning form, text reports can be very helpful to guys and are much better than nothing.

-Dan
 

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Originally posted by Spirit Fingers
Something which you should know are that Natural Game, the system which Woodhaven, Dimitri, and I use is nothing like the game used by most of ASF.

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You're an instructor for Woodhaven and Dimitri, Spirit Fingers?
 

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Originally posted by blueangel83
I'm a female. An Asian American or Pacific Islander American. I consider myself a 5 or a 6 but I do get hit on by every guy young or old that I pass by in the streets. www.myspace.com/meggy83
oh please, :rolleyes:

they hit on you because they got you confused with a "street walker"
 

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Nice LR!
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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