"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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This past Friday, I was in chilling mode. All that I wanted was to sit back, drink a couple beers and watch a movie, and for most of the night it was working out for me.

Then, at around 2am, I get a phone call.
HB : Hi, are you XXX's roommate?
Me: Yes.
HB : Oh its C's roommate (C = my roommates gf), I've been wanting to meet you for a while now. We are on our way to the B, are you going to come with ?
Me : Sure. Call me back when you are close by.

So, when the two girls showed up, I went downstairs to meet them, and as I walk out of my place a group of other girls that I met the night before called my name. Then, we talked for a few minutes, and I realized just how drunk HB really was.

Then, C and my roommate decided to not go to the bar. HB dragged me there anyway.

At the bar, I ran into this hottie (8-8.5) that I had been with on New Years, but has been playing these hot and cold games with me... that is why I had stopped calling her. She called me an ******* for not calling her anymore, to which I told her that it really seemed like she was giving me the brush off, and I figured it best to make things easy for her.

I cut the conversation short, as HB dragged me to the dance floor.

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QUESTION :
Is that type of situation one that would normally lower a girls IL, or raise it? Because I was wanting to start calling HB8 again... to see if the situation has changed.
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The night went on, and I was forced to all but ignore HB8, then at the end of the night, we returned to my place. We started making out, for a little bit... but then she realized that she had 4 hours to get to work, so she got a ride home.

Last night, my roommate, his gf, and I were going to go out for a night of drinking... so I told them to bring HB, and they did. So, after a chill night of drinking and walking the streets, we got back to my place, started watching a movie, then she said how the couch wasn'T very comfy (which its not). I told her that my bed was the next best option... she just got up and went there.

I joined her shortly, and she stayed the night this time.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Update:

The next day, I was about to make some plans when my roommate tells me that the girls are planning to make us supper.

So, I went there, we ate some food, drank a little bit, talked, then eventually we retired to the ladies' rooms....

Now, I've already decided that this girl is not my type, and have lost interest...

Time to call back some of the girls from last week :)
 

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I figure if she's willing to put the effort, and call me, I might give her a few more rounds... but I don't even have her number to call her.

I don't know why I lost interest... maybe there was no thrill of the chase.
 

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Originally posted by So pimp its scary
I figure if she's willing to put the effort, and call me, I might give her a few more rounds... but I don't even have her number to call her.

I don't know why I lost interest... maybe there was no thrill of the chase.
Pimp rule number 1: Never throw away putang
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

Read more...

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This is the thing that sucks about early twenty something's. Because girl is probably only 21 or 22 I would chalk her on and off attitude up to inexperience. She probably didn't know what to do to get or keep your attension. And because she thinks you simply don't give a crap about her feelings probably dropped her interest level in you a few points. She probably went home that night and cried herself to sleep thinking she's to hideous for guys to pay attension.

This is why I refuse to date anyone in their early to mid twenties. I am sorry, I don't care how sweet and young the pooty is or how firm the chest is, I'll gladly take socks with oranges over having to mentor some chick into relationship maturity.

-Al
 

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Royal : I don't like to think of it as throwing out the tang, but seriously, when you start banging a few broads at a time... sometimes you just need to filter out the crap.

Albion : I think you were pretty dead on the mark, she is 20, and when we talked she would always be either hot or cold, but she would tell me if its ok that she likes me, and things like that... and somehow would cancel most of our dates. I more just want to test the waters to see if things have changed, but I agree that I probably dropped her IL a few points the other day.

I called her up just the other day, heres a rough outline of the conversation.

Her : Hi!

Me : Hi, how's it going?

her : Good.

Me: Listen, I'm just calling because I owe you an apology.

Her: You sure do...

Me: Yeah, I'm sorry, you were right about situation X... I didn't want to believe you, and then all the drama I had to go through.
Also, I wanted to apologize for being an a$$ at the bar the other day, I had to babysit my roommates gf's drunken friend while they got it on in the apartment. I was just making sure she didn't do anything stupid... and she kept dragging me around the bar when you came to talk.
(situation x is concerning rebound relationships... I lied and told her that I started a relationship after we stopped talking and suffered from the rebounding)

Her : You know I'm probably gonna rub that in for about another week... you're lucky your so cute.

Me : Yeah... I can't help that... just like I am not an a$$hole, but it just turns out like that sometimes. Anyway...

**Casual conversation** app 5 min

Me : I gotta go soon, but listen, I never did want us to be a one or two night thing...

Her : That's just the way things turned out...

Me : and I never did get a chance to get to know you, something that I still want to do...

her : Ya... you've been missing out.

me: Ya... but you've been missing me, so that makes us even.

her : *giggles*

me : so, since you've already got plans for tonight, I'll call you in a couple days and we'll make some plans. So I can get to know you a little better... if youre still willing to give me that chance.

Her : Ok, as long as you don't wait another week to call, or I'll have to rub in how much of an a$$ you are for that much longer.

Me : oohh... and we don'T want that to happen now do we.

her : *giggles* talk to you later.

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