"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Lied about my age x_x

War Against Betaism

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I was at a party last night and met this one girl. She was the only girl I was interested in and decided to go for it. She looked like she was 19 (I'm 18). I got her number, called her earlier today and then we were talking, then she mentions how she's usually the one buying alcohol for parties and kickbacks, and I'm like "oh you're 21?" she says "ya I'm 23." I'm like O_O, and for some reason got intimidated. I dunno why, I felt diminutive, 23-18=5 years difference in age, and that just got me. She asks me how old I was. I hesitantly told her I was 18...she says "No way I swear I thought you were 21!" My AFC side kicked in momentarily and told her "lol naw fo reals I'm 19." I almost told her I was 20, but 19 just came out. So after I let her go, she texts me saying "haha damn I'm too old for you! It's cool, age is only a number. I'm fun I promise :)" That's when I realized I didn't need to lie -_-

I'm actually kind of over the fact that she's 5 years older than me, though now she thinks I'm 19. I'm just concerned that if she does find out I'm 18, she would see it as that I was afraid of losing her, which is total AFC. I never lied about my age before, would she put a lot of stock into this?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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yah well, it could be lots worse.
you could be 16 lying saying you are 19 and she is 23, then after you date her, you confess to lying and your real age.
 

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penkitten said:
yah well, it could be lots worse.
you could be 16 lying saying you are 19 and she is 23, then after you date her, you confess to lying and your real age.
lol reminds me of a story of my cousin.

The thing I'm a bit worried about is not the lie in my age difference, just the fact that I lied.
 

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Theres only so long you can beat around the bush about never going to bars or buying liqour you know.. telling her is sooner the better i'd say.
 

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This is an absolute non-issue.

You didn't say you were 21; so she is not going to invite you to a bar or anything. Do not even worry about it. Hump that slut.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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stand said:
This is an absolute non-issue.

You didn't say you were 21; so she is not going to invite you to a bar or anything. Do not even worry about it. Hump that slut.
Yeah you're right, it's just another case of me over analyzing something that's not even really important. The whole fact that she's this much older than me just took be me by surprise.
 

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Man i need to read the whole message.. you told her your age.. so whats the problem here?
 

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splinterkb said:
Man i need to read the whole message.. you told her your age.. so whats the problem here?
If she finds out, I was afraid that she would lose interest because I tried staying in contact with her by lying. But like stand said it's really no big deal.
 

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You said you're 19 and not 18.. but being 19 doesn't make that big of a difference so I think you're in the clear.. she was still interested after you told her you were young so just act like you own that **** and take it.
 

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splinterkb said:
You said you're 19 and not 18.. but being 19 doesn't make that big of a difference so I think you're in the clear.. she was still interested after you told her you were young so just act like you own that **** and take it.
Exactly what I'm going to do :)
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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stand said:
This is an absolute non-issue.

You didn't say you were 21; so she is not going to invite you to a bar or anything. Do not even worry about it. Hump that slut.
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Haha. Don't let your overanalyzing make you hesisitate. Remeber, just like Ross Jeffries said, "He who hesisitates, masturbates".

Women lie about their age all the time.

If she is very nice and friendly, you can start teasing her about it, but not too much. Call her "grandma", etc. when she does something goofy like telling you she can't hear what you said, or something related to age. Better if it is exagerated.
 

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...What's so funny about this situation is that I just got off the phone with her, and she confessed about actually being 22...she'll be 23 soon though.

Checklist of things to improve on:

[ ] Overanalyzing
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Age makes little difference. The biggest age gap that I've faced was sleeping with a chick 9 years my senior. I told her my real age, she freaked out saying that she was too old for me, and I used it to my advantage. It didn't stop me from closing the deal.

Age is only an issue if you make it an issue.... or if you're dating my grandma.
 

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War Against Betaism said:
I was at a party last night and met this one girl. She was the only girl I was interested in and decided to go for it. She looked like she was 19 (I'm 18). I got her number, called her earlier today and then we were talking, then she mentions how she's usually the one buying alcohol for parties and kickbacks, and I'm like "oh you're 21?" she says "ya I'm 23." I'm like O_O, and for some reason got intimidated. I dunno why, I felt diminutive, 23-18=5 years difference in age, and that just got me. She asks me how old I was. I hesitantly told her I was 18...she says "No way I swear I thought you were 21!" My AFC side kicked in momentarily and told her "lol naw fo reals I'm 19." I almost told her I was 20, but 19 just came out. So after I let her go, she texts me saying "haha damn I'm too old for you! It's cool, age is only a number. I'm fun I promise :)" That's when I realized I didn't need to lie -_-

I'm actually kind of over the fact that she's 5 years older than me, though now she thinks I'm 19. I'm just concerned that if she does find out I'm 18, she would see it as that I was afraid of losing her, which is total AFC. I never lied about my age before, would she put a lot of stock into this?
That's exactly the problem I had. Glad you learned from it. I look like I'm in my mid 20s so the chicks don't really believe me when I tell them I'm 18.

When they tell me that they are like 23 I tell them "Oh, poor baby. You are still so young. You need guidance..."

I usually tell them that I'm 27 then.

They eat it up every time...
 
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