"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Learning to dance field report

zarathustra

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All the PUA material I've read so far advises us to avoid the dance floor unless you can dance. So that's what I've done for years.

In the interest of broadening my game I bought a bunch of instructional DVD's on dance club moves. From PUA doctrine we know that girls love people watching and men with confidence. I reasoned that hitting the dance floor would kill two birds with one stone. I've been practicing for about a month so far and have hit the club three times. I've asked friends what they thought and I was told I have some good moves so I do know that I'm not AFCing it out on the floor.

Here is what the field has thougt me so far...

First, preselection is key. The first girl you get to dance is always the most difficult. One night I went out and and didn't dance with anyone. The follow up night I just plowed in and after a five minute dance with an 8.5 had no trouble finding someone to dance with for the next 45 minutes. It is in this sense that a pivot is almost a necessity for a night out dancing.

Second, the girls who are dancing with other girls are constantly scanning the dance floor. Talk about being predatory. I believe this goes back to preselection. This is a groupthink mentality on the part of women. If you're dancing alone you must have low S & R value; if you are dancing with someone you must have high S & R value.

Third, eye contact is key. I read this on another forum. When dancing just stare at her eyes. At first this struck me as strange...a guy some girl doesn't know just staring into her eyes? Yes, it is true! They're into it! As far as why I think this one shows alpha male/top dog traits. But that's just what I think.

Fourth, the bounce is something I haven't thought about yet. I hypothosize that once the girl shows high level IOIs then could take her hand and go out to the patio, ect...

That's all I have for now. Let me know what you think.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Vanilla

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Agree except for the dancing alone. I'm dancing because I want to have fun, not to prove anything to women. If they want to have fun with me, then they'll come to ME.

I also think having a partner to practice is much more helpful than trying a DVD. Invest time and money into it and you'll see results.
 

Vanilla

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real2 said:
I'm just wondering, does dancing alone attract girls to you in a night club?

I've seen this really amazing dancer at our local college night club, yet at zero point in time did girls approach him.


You can save yourself money by just you-tubing dance videos :)
Dunno dude, I saw this one guy do amazing moves, everyone watched and afterwords was surrounded by women. Of course he wasn't much of a talker so they eventually got bored of him.

As for Youtube, I have yet to find a good dance video and it's not the same as having an instructor guide you. I mean you could be doing the moves wrong and it's more like work than having fun learning.
 

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I only went to a club once and learned to dance by my self at home using youtube videos. I was using basic moves and danced w prolly 20-25 girls mostly grinding. I started out dancing by my self with beer in hand doing cheers with my friend who was dancing with a girl. I looked like i was having a fun time and in no time girls started coming up to me and grinding on me.
 

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Prodigy746 said:
I only went to a club once and learned to dance by my self at home using youtube videos. I was using basic moves and danced w prolly 20-25 girls mostly grinding. I started out dancing by my self with beer in hand doing cheers with my friend who was dancing with a girl. I looked like i was having a fun time and in no time girls started coming up to me and grinding on me.
I do the beer in hand also. It makes me feel much more confortable holding a beer in my hand. I guess its because if you have a beer in hand you get the image of a guy just having a good time, a little drunk, not caring to actually be dancing with anyone, rather than a guy dancing by himself with no beer in hand which makes you seem lower value. Not only that but what has come up is that girls like to come grind w me and start taking drinks out of my beer so the beer does attract girls lol.

I recommend beer in hand for those guys like me that are not really into dancing, not very good dancers that go to clubs without a dance partner, and only go to clubs for grinding, not for putting out great dance moves.

but if you are a great dancer or are a magnet for girls grinding on you then no need to have a beer on hand. This is just for us guys that end up dancing alone a lot before we get the grinders on us.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Allurre

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You should just watch dance clips on Youtube, save yourself the investment on dance tutorials, those are corny.

Being a dancer (I can do what Chris Brown does) myself, and having years of experiencing dancing with women in the club, the best ways to approach them is first establish eye contact and smile.

If she returns a smile, it's on.

If she doesn't, approach her and tell her, "Hey, thanks for not smiling back. Are you usually shy around strangers who smile to you?"

Method two...

Position yourself near her, and flaunt your moves. If you can really dance, you will capture everyone's attention around for a while.

Your target will notice you, and will be impressed.

2 minutes after you're done, approach her and politely ask "May I have a dance with you" =)

It'll melt her.
 

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2 minutes after you're done, approach her and politely ask "May I have a dance with you" =)

It'll melt her.
You shouldn't have to say anything to get her to dance with you at that point. Asking to dance at a club is something chumps do. You are at a club, you were already showing off, there's no reason to ask.
 

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What iv noticed im actually not a very good dancer but i just have fun and the girls come and dance with me cause i get them all jumping all bout having fun imo
 
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