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Kino Questions

AndyW

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So i've been reading the DJB, and specifically about Kino...

I understand Kino fundamentals, and i have NO problem at all with using Kino, but last weekend i was thrown a bit by it...

I turned up at a club to meet a bunch of friends, one of whom i'm after...as soon as i got there she ran over to me and hugged me, kissed me on the cheek, and then kept her hands on my stomach whilst she talked to me. I made sure i returned the Kino!!

I had to go say hi to some other people, so we broke apart. 5 Minutes later i looked up from the person i was speaking to (to see if i could see this girl) and she was staring right at me...she ran over again and this time came in even closer, grabbed my hand, and started talking again...so we were kinda in the position of when you slow dance - hand round eachs others backs, with my other hand holding hers...the whole time we were talking we were leaning RIGHT in (so her body was pressed right up against me) and we were talking directly into each others ears, meaning our cheeks kept brushing. NOw i know enough about it all to figure that this is ALL good stuff, and usually i wouldn't hesitate to allow myself to accept this girl is interested.

However, because this was all within 20 minutes of me arriving, we got interupted again (she had been there 90 minutes so had already said hello to everyone else). I was still doing the rounds talking to everyone else. Next thing, she invites me over to meet her friends who i have never met before, and again there is playful touching, etc.

So its all good, but then in over the course of the night we got seperated out more and i got stuck talking to some people i haven't seen for a long time...then i see some guy hitting on her, but getting pushed away. 10 minutes later he is hitting on her again, and this time she gives in and kisses him?!?

All the great Kino, but she ends up with someone else?!?

I never made the move because i hadn't been there long enough (i do NOT go in to a club to pull within the first 30 minutes - i'd rather catch up with my regular people, and have a drink).

Now i have no idea whether her interest was real, or she was playin or what!!

Anyone seen this kinda behaviour before?
 

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Seems like she was just after alot of attention. Do what you want to do (drinks with mates) and then give her the attention; dont let her dominate your night unless you want to get her back at your place.

If she told that other guy to go away then 10mins later she was kissing him; personally I wouldnt worry about her.

gl with it all mate
 

AndyW

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I def wasn't letting it dominate my night! That was kinda the problem...someone suggested to me afterwards that she was clearly interested but because i was playing it quite aloof and spent a lot of time basically not giving her a lot of attention apart from when she walked in, that she thought i was just playing with her, and not really interested!

I'd wondered about her being an attention W***e, but then figured she'd have been kino'ing ALL the guys the same way she was with me! And she wasn't. She was GETTING a lot of attention, but she wasn't doing Kino much
 
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