"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Hope this is Ok, but I have started this so that around every week I can post some of what my week was like with girls. I can tell you all what I have learned and ask for your advise. Read the next post for my first bit of info. I hope this will herlp some of you out there like me, so we can help each other improve, feel free to post some of the info you have for everyone.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Just to let you all know, I am a sophmore in High School and am just really starting out with girls. I had been a shy kid most of my life and am now starting from the bottom and working up. I have really done good, I am not great at just right out asking for an IM or #, but have developed things to get it. Little things like making a list of friends phone numbers when the girl is around you with other people. I start out by asking some of the guys to right down there numbers and then asking her if she would like to add hers. Works everytime. I started out after a 5 on the scale 1 to 10, ten being best. Now I have gone after a 9. I have remember to keep contact up with the 5 just incase I don't get the nine, but I am going to keep trying. I will update again soon.
 

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This was a problem in the past.

Don't use this as a "journal". An approach journal is fine though.
 

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I don't want to, I just want to post what I have been though and have people tell me where I should go from where I am, what I should next. Thanks for you post.
 

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Ok, first question here. You should already know how I got this girls IM/Email. Now I really need to know how should I contact her. I figure I have a few options, since I havn't seen her on yet.
1. Wait it out intill I see her on (if this is the case should I start it off with a school question, or just chat)
2. Just right her a normal email
3. Send her a chain letter asking her to respong and wait for a responce.
4. Have someone else have her contact me (From what I have read this is not good becuase of lack of confidence.)

Please tell me what you think.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I do as much as possible. but since it is not easy with our busy schedules, and we can only talk in math when our teacher is not paying attention. But considering if I can only talk online what should I do.
 

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If you only talk to her online, then either get her number or ask her out online. Its not perfect, nowhere near as good as in person, but it works. I've found as soon as they find out we're going to do something together they give the number.
 

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Is that true. Thats cool. I got one girls number by telling her my number, I said "Thanks for letting me use your book, if u need it sooner call me at 6990628". It worked, you must know this was after she let me use her world history book. In the next email I got her email in return. It has worked everytime for me. I think I am a bit sneaky though.
 

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NEED HELP NOW!!!

Ok, tomorrow I am going to try to get this chick really interested in me. Our teacher is going to put us in a group of six, 3 guys, two girls. In our group me and this chick sit facing each other, the other girl to my left, a guy to my right, and a guy to this chicks rights. We mainly discuss math but get some time to chat. I would like to know what you think would be the best body language for me to use. Should I try the wink/smile. Should I talk with my palms facing her, should I lean her way. Try to make her laugh, try to get her interested by talking math. Plain old EC. I just don't know please HELP:confused:
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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You're overthinking it majorly.. If you are constantly thinking of body language techniques and trying to get 'perfect' body language, you will end up looking awkward AND will be concentrating on that so much that you won't speak as fluently and probably won't listen as well. Trust me on that one from experience..

Just relax, do whatever the hell you like. No matter how many tips you read of 'perfect relaxed state', the reality is if you really are relaxed, it won't matter how you sit you will appear relaxed.

Be funny, be relaxed and confident, maybe practice facial expressions such as smiles in the mirror if you feel like it.. Girls comment on my sexy facial expressions, mostly smiles and the eyebrows raised thing. And have fun. There isn't really an easy way.. If there was, we wouldn't all be sitting around here. ;)

Good luck.
 
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