"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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It doesnt make any sense but it works..

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Im not doing a field report today althout it was good anyway I'll go straight to the point, thats what we cares here.

What makes no sense but works is actually getting in touch with girls, then leave them as if you dont give a fvck, no explanation no promise to come back, just move and appear again after hours.

If a girl was doing that to me I would really be pissed off but apparently girls get angry only superficially for that.

Met these two girls at the club, cold approach as usuall on both (I actually feel it easier when I approach two instead of one), talking and a little bit of dancing then since the signals werent as high as I wanted I decided to try and get others so I went to an other bar nearby, met some friends and chilled with them for a couple of hours.

Then came back again in the first club and found again those two girls, danced a little bit with a little more physical conctact then moved to an other part of the club to make other approaches which I did although with no super result.

Anyway came again to those girls who were now dancing with 2 guys, I got one of them and whispered that they were such bad girls, already found two boyfriends in few minutes, then I told her I was gonna leave them but one of them told me to stay, we danced 3 on 2 untill those two guys visibly pissed off left.

Well long story short I toke one of them to she sofas and started making out and stydying female anatomy on her with my hands, the other got an other guy but was coming to us very often.

What I think worked great was not only appearing and disappearing as if they were not anything special but mostly not saying anything about where I was going or that I was leaving, nor giving explanation when asked about it.
In fact I made fun of them when they were asking, I even told one of them
that if she wanted me to stick around for more she should have dressed as a nurse in skirt.

Seriously the more success I get with girls and the more I understand why, the more I realize they make no sense at all.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Well, glad you're having fun.

I have an zero-effort philosophy. When something is coming naturally I can work without it feeling like effort. I think this dovetails with what you're saying. I do no effort not because it "works" but because it feels right. When I'm interacting with someone and it's starting to feel like effort, I often leave. I've been asked why and I simply say "I feel like it." That's the truth - I actually don't know why I'm leaving, I just know this isn't working. I come back and talk to them later for the same reason. "I wanted to." Usually, this isn't a game - I honestly don't know much except I know I want to for some reason.

This business of thinking about what "works" with women I find exhausting - it just feels wrong to try to mold myself into someone else to try to please other people. For one, I really dislike people who seem to do this but anyway it feels wrong.

I observed you used the word "work" many times - and never did you talk about leaving because your own internal compass guided you that way. My experience has been extremely negative when I was thinking about what worked. I feel empty. I know many people say similar things on this site, but then they go on to prescribe a lot of rules and other things that seem crazy to me.

PS I don't need to understand anybody but myself in order to do what I truly want. That's a major advantage.
 

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I'm not sure if it doesn't make sense, but yes this is a pretty typical move for me at a party. If there's a girl I'm interested in usually my night goes something like this:

- say hi to the people I know when I walk in, maybe catch up, see how everyone's doing
- introduce myself (if I don't know her) and chat a bit
- either end up in a different conversation or go grab a beer or whatever, don't really talk to her for the next hour or so
- then at the end of the night typically she walks up to me or finds some excuse to end up next to me... take it from there

It's passive but it's way more successful for me than anything else. My "game" is just that I'm just an interesting guy, can hold a conversation and make people laugh, and I don't linger around. Works well enough for me.
 
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