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So I want to try out having a GF. I really like this girl. I made a few threads about her. I want her to be mine. So this Friday is the day I'm mentioning that I'd like her to be my GF.

We are not going out on a date but rather we are hanging out with friends. It's going to be me and this guy who I don't really know but goes to her school and we met though his cousin that goes to my school. And he is going to bring a long 1-2 of his friends with us. And for the girls it will be the girl I like and her best friend. Naturally since it is in a group I will be funnier, more outgoing, and more confident then when we are out on dates. Towards the end of the hang out thingy I'm going to pull her away from the group (so we are not visible) and i'll find a way to tell her that I'd like for her to be my Girlfriend and go in for the kiss.

Pretty much what I'm asking is will asking her out while we're hanging out with other friends work out as long as I pull her away from the group?
 

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Asking her out at the end of the night is definitely possible but where I'm doubting you is this "asking to be your girlfriend" thing. Just be funny with her and start physical contact to get her going. Then make your move when the time is right, its just like with any girl you want to ask out. It's just stupid to say "Will you be my girlfriend?"
 

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Unfortunately she canceled. I'm still going to go have a fun time with out her. I mentioned that we could just find time later. However this still seems like a good topic to discuss I guess if anyone wants to add anything else.


BTW I was not just going to pull her away and say "i'd like you to be my GF" I was going to start touching, holding hands, arm around the back, etc. and maybe kiss first then ask out or kiss after. However that played out would of worked I guess.
 

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yeah probably not the smoothest approach

specific plans always go to sh*t anyway, so its probably better not to make them and just go along with whatever happens.

asking her to "be your girlfriend" is unnecessary, and since you've only hung out once, in a group, you're making a HUGE jump from "just going out with friends" to "going out exclusively." Seduction is all about smoothness and subtlety; there should be no jarring transitions.

On the group date, pre-kino a lot (lean into her personal space, whisper stuff in her ear, sit next to her. don't be a creep though, lol) and then break the physical contact barrier AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. If you don't do this early on, its going to be weird as h*ll to try to do it later on, trust me on this.

Isolate her from the group, and with proper escalation, get the kiss...and then leave her hanging. Take her back into the group and act like nothing happened. **If you don't manage to kiss her, its fine too. Isolating a girl when you guys are out in a group is a lot harder than it sounds. Just continue doing what is written below.**

In a few days, make plans to go out with her. When you do this, don't mention anything relationshipwise. Continue going out for a few dates, but be unclear with her as to whether or not you're exclusive (if SHE is the one to bring it up though, accept, and you're in). However, when you're together, whether in school, with friends, or out on a date, ACT as though she already IS your girlfriend (kissing, hand holding, hugging, you know). If you didn't manage to kiss her in the group date, make that a priority on your next date.

It will become clear to her and everyone else that you two are going out, and eventually, when one of you decides to bring up the relationship talk, it won't be weird because you would have been going out unofficially for a while.
 
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