Is there a sure way to know a genuine IOI ?

[jafyk]

I understood your situation and we already talked about it here, so I felt it would be good to continue the discussion relating to the topic's subject rather than your specific case, but if you want to dwell on it more then be my guest.

Oh! gotcha. It was hard to tell you were transitioning to another subject entirely.

 

[jafyk]

Not the point about ice skating, it was an example of something specific to do with her. You also answered you own question, "I've not even established a connection, but I want her name and phone number because she's hot."

Well, I was just there doing my thing ok? Can you blame a brother for looking fine? I wasn't trying to turn her on or get her attention. She was trying to get mine and I obliged her.
I asked for her e-mail/ # after the facebook thing fell through. My purpose of asking for the facebook was to chat with her and build more rapport before asking for # and date. When the facebook thing fell through I didn't want to start exchanging long flirty notes back and forth. I figured if I got some contact info I could catch up later considering we were both busy at the moment. Do you at least understand where I'm coming from? Because you make it seem like I can't approach girls and have a normal verbal face to face convo.
I feel you on the 9/10 IOIs example. I think from what I read in that book it's true. Still I don't think you can confidently say you knew the exact reasons she turned me down. She could've genuinely had a bf and not want to cheat. Remember the other follow up response I gave you about the married woman I chatted up?

 

[jafyk]

First off, I never attempt to put anyone down, just tough love because I want everyone here to be successful to the best of their abilities. I admit, I may have come off somewhat harsh, but I take back nothing.
Well Joven Juan, I'd suggest that you choose your delivery well because that's how you came across. I've known a lot of people try to cover such things with "tough love"


2nd. "In other words...." Yes. You're thinking way too much here. I was really hoping you meant an IM because passing notes was cool in high school, and in college lecture courses, but a null outside of that, In My Humble Opinion. Nonetheless, you may have success with it, in which case, more power to you. Just not for me. God Bless Earth.
I'd rather talk to her but given the situation that was my adaptation besides not everything is set in stone (I'm referring to your comments on passing notes)

Lastly, the way you picture it tells me something else, (*disclaimer* I know I'm jumping to conclusions here, so no need to tell me about it, rather just agree to disagree and state your dissenting opinion if needed) subconsciously, you have issues about being the center of attention, don't believe a female would give you her undivided attention based on your personality and/or looks, as well as the possibility of other self confidence issues being in existence.
Ok, you got me smart guy or did you? Anyway, I'd rather not get rejected in front of every one. I have been the center of attention in the past. Sometimes I like it some times I don't just depends. Some people buy a new car and they want every one to know about it. Who cares. I used to have a friend who would like to introduce me as a very good soccer player even without his audience making any inquiries. Why is this a problem because he puts me higher than my actual abilities. What do you think people are gonna expect next time from me... you guessed it , to play like a genius and when I fail to play like one I end of looking bad. I'm a good soccer player and I know my strengths and limits.

The more and more you provide excuses the more it seems like you were simply afraid to get publicly rejected in earshot of 5 times as many people as normal due to proximity and the way below average noise levels in a library. Nonetheless, I know women that are turned on by the guy that approaches, gets rejected, and still walks away confidently. I've picked up that woman.

Another thing that makes sosuave contradictory. If we are the prize why do we have to be the one to keep approaching and getting turned down? If a woman simply wants you to approach so she can turn you down. Isn't that what you guys call AW?

As far as cheating? I didn't mean it was ok, but rather that there are a large population of females that will fvck you first, tell you they have a boyfriend second, and what can you really do about that? I'm not talking married, because MARRIED IS NOT LEGALLY SINGLE. Having A BOYFRIEND IS LEGALLY SINGLE.
Point taken

Finally, to bluntly answer your question in a way I hope you can appreciate: Categorically, NO!

I smile, wink, and run game on fat girls I never have intentions of fvcking sometimes just to see how it feels to be an attention *****. And you know what? The fat girls start thinking I really like them, start having random conversations with me, get my number from friends of friends, call me on BS excuses to conversate, etc. Its actually pretty annoying and really doesn't boost my ego because I knew these fat girls liked me before I even knew their names. Nonetheless, I doubt these fat girls know that until my actions begin to speak louder than my words.

Did I answer your questions?

Yes and thank you