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is it worth cold approaching without eye contact first?

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Originally posted by Double J
I agree that the odds are stacked up against you, but after taking the initiative to make the cold approach, you feel good about yourself that you had the cojones to do it.
surely you have the cajones but after a while when you ALREADY KNOW you HAVE the cajones to do it you as me start to:

I'm askin' myself if I have the confidence to do all this WHY IS THAT I'M getting the results I WANT from all this ?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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I'm askin' myself if I have the confidence to do all this WHY IS THAT I'M ====> NOT<==== getting the results I WANT from all this ?
 

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Maybe your game and/or frame sucks? I can confidently approach girls but I can feel my confidence leave at various points in the interaction, especially if I run out of stuff to say. Keeping a confidence dominant frame of mind is hard and needs to be constant throughout the interaction, hell, throughout LIFE!


Something to consider: You need less game to seduce a girl who is already attracted to you from your looks or body language, but that doesn't mean that it's impossible or pointless to seduce girls who aren't staring at you.

But hey man, this is all about experience. If you experience better results through approaching after EC, go with that. Try peacocking to get more girls attention. I don't find EC necessary and don't like to be limited to girls who look at me.
 
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I have found that

to just boost your confidence: approach without eye contact

if you wanna get results and not get discouraged: look for eye contact first (eventhough EC doesn't guarantee she is into you, she might be just flirting)
 

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so is approaching good if she doesn't look interested?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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It depends on the situation, cold approaches with no signs are obviously less likely to work out and get a number close. But if you have tough skin and good conversation skills its good practice, and as long as confidence stays very high becuase you know no matter how hot you are the odds are already stacked against you, so you have nothing to lose. I mean if you cold approach a girl and get rejected, or dont approach at all, either way the end outcome is the same.

However if your confidence wavers very easily completely cold approaches with no signs might be a bad idea, it least wait for eye contact if you have wavering self-esteem.
 

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hmmm.... I think I'm going to try to do some approaches without eye contact a few times. It should be an interesting challenge becaue really the eyes have it ....or do they? I've always worked under the assumtion that eyes will drop tells on girls and used that to my advantage. Lets see how it would work if I went in "unprepared" I can tell you now I'll be out of my rhythm and comfort zone which is good, as I've been pretty bored with these drab and routine pick ups for the last few months. It's like I'm going through the motions, I need something fresh to get me excited about being young and in the game.
 

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go for the approach regardless of whether or not she gives eye contact or any signals.

if a girl gives eye contact, it doesn't necessarily mean she'll be open & receptive. i was at a concert and i caught eyes with this cute girl. she even smiled at me. seconds after i approached her, her significant other arrived from using the restroom.

if a girl gives no eye contact or any signals, it doesn't necessarily mean she'll reject you. many times, i have approached girls who didn't seem receptive and yet they were.
 

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Wait wait wait.

The first rule of seduction is - assume interest. Assume that the girl wants to jump on your d!ck right then and there. So with that in mind, do you need eye contact to cold approach? Hell no! Just go over and run game on her and the rest is history. :woo:
 
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