"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Immoral concept...?

DJFear

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Hi everyone :cool:

Well ye i am newbie but I have been around and reading DJ bible and some other good posts for a while now. And while I admit that it has certainly opened my eyes on a lot of issues, one negative aspect of DJ in my opinion is how immoral it can all be sometimes.

For example spinning plates while in LTR?? seems like cheating to me...or not giving a s**t about anyone but yourself aka selfishness? or maybe fooling some girl to get what you want and then just dumping her by hurting her feelings (cause good girls do exist lol).

So ye basically, there are some aspects of DJ that dont seem to fit with my morals etc or do I still have that inner niceness in me,,,hmm hard to say...what you guys reckon do you ever feel guilty playing this game?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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prairiedog24

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The bad parts are just an easy shortcut to learning the good when done right.

For example: a humble other-centered person is so confident in themselves that they can afford to be interested in others without doing it to compensate for their own [lack of] self-esteem. That's DJ material.

But for those of us who have a tendency for overbalancing in an unhealthy manner (aka, onitis with a LJBFs or something) teaching yourself to not give a *** is just the first baby step in the right direction.
 

mothballs

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IMO a real DJ has strong morals as well. If you're spinning plates, don't be in an LTR or any type where she thinks it's "exclusive". But, you should be looking out for yourself, this is not immoral, it is the only thing you have control over... You should be nice, you should be a gentleman, you should do things for people you care about, but always keep balance so you don't get used... make sure they are ready and willing to do the same for you. The saddest thing is a man being used by a woman (and vice versa).
 
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