Cube
Don Juan
I was wondering if any of you guys on here have successfully quit smoking and if you have what you found worked best in stopping. I'm sick of these damn cancer sticks controlling me and I really want to get the hell off of them.
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
I'm having trouble quitting cigarettes
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
i havent smoked for 9 months before april, and only started again cause i moved to a new town and i would literally die from boredom if i didnt smoke.
if you wanna quit...just stop and forget all those "quit-smoking-aids", they're bull****.if you want to light up a cigarrete...dont. its really as easy as it sounds.
if you wanna quit...just stop and forget all those "quit-smoking-aids", they're bull****.if you want to light up a cigarrete...dont. its really as easy as it sounds.
ClosetMisogynist
Don Juan
Humans are fundamentally different from animals in two ways. First, we can hold off revenge and retaliation for great lengths of time. Second we can think of concepts in "NOT". What this means is if you quit smoking, for a very long time, you will be saying "I am not smoking, therfore thinking of it. So it makes it a ***** to quit.
Do you smoke quickly or slowly? The reason I ask is how the chemicals affect your brain. If you are a chain smoker, it acts as an anti-anxiety tool. If you smoke really slow it is to cope with depression. If you can figure if either of these roots are causing you to cope this way, we can try and remedy the cause too.
Some people smoke to use the action as a transistion device between events. An example would be finishing a paper and then going to mow the lawn.
Some people also like to use a smoke as a way to keep themselves occupied, particularly their hands if they are semi-social phobic. It acts like a barrier if they are fidgety and don't want to telegraph their anxiousness to others.
I quit cold turkey back in September 2000. I was dating a Winston girl who did bar promos and bartended too. That lasted for 18 months or more. She got tired of cleaning my ashtrays out, so I quit.
I found candy works well for me. I like the Jolly Ranchers to occupy me and I don't get as harsh a craving the second time around.
Do you smoke quickly or slowly? The reason I ask is how the chemicals affect your brain. If you are a chain smoker, it acts as an anti-anxiety tool. If you smoke really slow it is to cope with depression. If you can figure if either of these roots are causing you to cope this way, we can try and remedy the cause too.
Some people smoke to use the action as a transistion device between events. An example would be finishing a paper and then going to mow the lawn.
Some people also like to use a smoke as a way to keep themselves occupied, particularly their hands if they are semi-social phobic. It acts like a barrier if they are fidgety and don't want to telegraph their anxiousness to others.
I quit cold turkey back in September 2000. I was dating a Winston girl who did bar promos and bartended too. That lasted for 18 months or more. She got tired of cleaning my ashtrays out, so I quit.
I found candy works well for me. I like the Jolly Ranchers to occupy me and I don't get as harsh a craving the second time around.
check out:
www.whyquit.com
http://cognitivequitting.com/
and there's a cessation center on www.about.com too
hope that helps
DC,
quit for 79 days. That's 2.380 death sticks not smoked and 423,74 € saved.
www.whyquit.com
http://cognitivequitting.com/
and there's a cessation center on www.about.com too
hope that helps
DC,
quit for 79 days. That's 2.380 death sticks not smoked and 423,74 € saved.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
ClosetMisogynist
Don Juan
I meant how they think. Sorry for being not specific enough. The vengence part was from my addictions based psychology track of classes at school. The second was from my interpersonal communications class.
i will quote from whyquit.comOriginally posted by Jimbo2k
"Quit Smoking aids" are proven to work and help people to quit. Just because it doesnt work for you, doesnt mean its BS.
" March 2003 study conducted by NRT industry consultants combined and average all seven over-the-counter NRT patch and gum studies and found that at least 93% of study participants relapsed to smoking within six-months."
and
"the American Cancer Society's 2003 Cancer Facts and Figures report asserts that 91.2% of all successful long-term quitters quit entirely on their own."
another Why Quit quote about going cold turkey instead of using Nicotine Replacement Therapy:
<i>"I read a comment somewhere in a post yesterday that cold turkey quitting was the ONLY way to quit. This is not a totally accurate statement. It is not that cold turkey is the only way to quit; it is just that cold turkey is actually the easiest way to quit. It is also the method that the vast majority of long-term ex-smokers in the world have used to quit smoking.
There are people who have quit using alternative approaches. There are some people who cut down gradually and actually pulled off a final quit. For every person who did it like this and succeeded, there are many many many many multiples of others who tried it and failed. The individual who used the method will think it is great because it worked for him or her, but since it works for so few people it will generally be recognized as a pretty ineffective technique by most people who do real world research into how to quit.
By real world research I mean by going to long-term ex-nicotine users who you know personally and finding out how they all got off nicotine. Again, you will very rarely find any who did it by gradual withdrawal. If you find a person like this who is now off years, you should never minimize the person's success. He or she quit smoking, likely doing it in a way that made it much more difficult than it needed to be, but still he or she did pull off the quit. The only advice that I would encourage that you share with the person is that now to stay off he or she must understand the bottom line method of sustaining his or her quit. That message is staying cognizant of the addiction and that the only true guaranteed method to stay off now is knowing never to administer nicotine again.
The same principle here applies to people who use NRT products. There are people who have quit this way. Again, it is a small percentage of the long-term ex-users out there, but they do exist. An individual who pulled it off this way will also feel that it is a great method for quitting. But again, this method works for a small percentage of people who try it and if you look into real world long-term quits you will have a very hard time finding many people who actually got off nicotine this way.
I feel it necessary to use that phrase, "got off nicotine," as opposed to saying, "got off smoking." There are some major experts coming out and advocating that people should be given nicotine supplements forever to stay off of smoking. Can this work? Of course it can. If you can give people enough nicotine via supplements it will satisfy their need for nicotine. After all, this is the primary reason they were smoking at the end--to feed a nicotine addiction. If the smoker can just get nicotine for the rest of his or her life via another route, he or she will avoid going through the three days of nicotine withdrawal.
The question needs to be though, why should anyone have to pay what is likely to be tens of thousands of dollars to avoid a few days of withdrawal. On top of this, these people will never be totally free of the moderate withdrawals that such usage is likely to keep going. These people will in fact tout the use of the product as a great aid, but when compared to what people who are totally nicotine free are experiencing, this victory over cigarettes is just a bit hollow.
There are a few people though whom you may encounter over your lifetime that did quit using NRT's as intended, weaning down for week after week and eventually quitting. If the person is now off for years, he or she is pretty much in the same state as a person who had quit cold turkey. He or she is nicotine free, and he or she should be thrilled by that fact. In some ways I look at people like this with a bit of awe, for they in all likelihood stuck with a process that was pretty much a gradual and prolonged withdrawal and yet they succeeded.
Again, debating the merits of their method with them is pretty much a moot point. It worked for them and you are going to have a pretty hard time convincing them that it is an ineffective method. But you do have a message that you can share with them that they do need to know. That message is that even though they are off nicotine for years, they still need to recognize that they are not cured of nicotine addiction and never will be. No matter how they had stopped, they must still understand the bottom line message, that the only way to stay free now is staying totally committed to never administer nicotine again via any nicotine replacement source and to never administer nicotine again from the original source that likely started the whole process by knowing to never take another puff! " </i>
<i>"I read a comment somewhere in a post yesterday that cold turkey quitting was the ONLY way to quit. This is not a totally accurate statement. It is not that cold turkey is the only way to quit; it is just that cold turkey is actually the easiest way to quit. It is also the method that the vast majority of long-term ex-smokers in the world have used to quit smoking.
There are people who have quit using alternative approaches. There are some people who cut down gradually and actually pulled off a final quit. For every person who did it like this and succeeded, there are many many many many multiples of others who tried it and failed. The individual who used the method will think it is great because it worked for him or her, but since it works for so few people it will generally be recognized as a pretty ineffective technique by most people who do real world research into how to quit.
By real world research I mean by going to long-term ex-nicotine users who you know personally and finding out how they all got off nicotine. Again, you will very rarely find any who did it by gradual withdrawal. If you find a person like this who is now off years, you should never minimize the person's success. He or she quit smoking, likely doing it in a way that made it much more difficult than it needed to be, but still he or she did pull off the quit. The only advice that I would encourage that you share with the person is that now to stay off he or she must understand the bottom line method of sustaining his or her quit. That message is staying cognizant of the addiction and that the only true guaranteed method to stay off now is knowing never to administer nicotine again.
The same principle here applies to people who use NRT products. There are people who have quit this way. Again, it is a small percentage of the long-term ex-users out there, but they do exist. An individual who pulled it off this way will also feel that it is a great method for quitting. But again, this method works for a small percentage of people who try it and if you look into real world long-term quits you will have a very hard time finding many people who actually got off nicotine this way.
I feel it necessary to use that phrase, "got off nicotine," as opposed to saying, "got off smoking." There are some major experts coming out and advocating that people should be given nicotine supplements forever to stay off of smoking. Can this work? Of course it can. If you can give people enough nicotine via supplements it will satisfy their need for nicotine. After all, this is the primary reason they were smoking at the end--to feed a nicotine addiction. If the smoker can just get nicotine for the rest of his or her life via another route, he or she will avoid going through the three days of nicotine withdrawal.
The question needs to be though, why should anyone have to pay what is likely to be tens of thousands of dollars to avoid a few days of withdrawal. On top of this, these people will never be totally free of the moderate withdrawals that such usage is likely to keep going. These people will in fact tout the use of the product as a great aid, but when compared to what people who are totally nicotine free are experiencing, this victory over cigarettes is just a bit hollow.
There are a few people though whom you may encounter over your lifetime that did quit using NRT's as intended, weaning down for week after week and eventually quitting. If the person is now off for years, he or she is pretty much in the same state as a person who had quit cold turkey. He or she is nicotine free, and he or she should be thrilled by that fact. In some ways I look at people like this with a bit of awe, for they in all likelihood stuck with a process that was pretty much a gradual and prolonged withdrawal and yet they succeeded.
Again, debating the merits of their method with them is pretty much a moot point. It worked for them and you are going to have a pretty hard time convincing them that it is an ineffective method. But you do have a message that you can share with them that they do need to know. That message is that even though they are off nicotine for years, they still need to recognize that they are not cured of nicotine addiction and never will be. No matter how they had stopped, they must still understand the bottom line message, that the only way to stay free now is staying totally committed to never administer nicotine again via any nicotine replacement source and to never administer nicotine again from the original source that likely started the whole process by knowing to never take another puff! " </i>
hyd
Don Juan
what helped for me was doing some real intense workouts, and never sit still so you have time to think about it, have stuff to do, keep your mind occupated the first 3 weeks orso