"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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If a woman asked you your body count or how many times you've slept with, would you reveal it?

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If a woman asked you your body count or how many times you've slept with, would you reveal it?

In my case, to her question, I replied, "It doesn't matter."

She responded, "I need to know, otherwise we can end this."
So I replied, "I like consistent people, so if you really want to ask me, just know that you won't go back on your word, and we can end this. I won't tell you."
Do you know how that ended? She never asked me again.

We dated for quite a while before breaking up.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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You can have a more diplomatic answer like, I have never really thought about it, but meaningful relationships I had X amount

you can also add a bit more context, if it is a big gap between the meaningful relationships vs reality like : not very proud about me by I had my party years where I was finding myself and realized that meaningful relationships, no matter the context ( friends, women, etc ) are actually what matters to me. quality over quantity
 

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Rollo Tomassi offers input about this with Iron Rule of Tomassi #2

Iron Rule of Tomassi #2

"Never under pain of death, honesty or dishonesty reveal the number of women you've slept with or explain any detail of your sexual experiences with them to a current lover"
 

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I think that's a ridiculous question to be asked and it clearly shows the guy lacks a masculine frame. If she respects you, she wouldn't dare ask 'what's your body count' just like she wouldn't dare insult you or call you names. Just imagine the proverbial Chad ( Brad Pitt, Chris Hemsworth etc) ... do you think he'd be asked that? :rolleyes:

Talking about past relationships is a different thing, though. But unless you're planning to marry her (she'd better be a virgin), getting into too much detail is pointless, IMO.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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I've been asked a few times. My answer is always "Plenty enough to know what I'm doing." I smile big, and it always stops right there.

I've never met a woman that didn't appreciate the benefits of a man experienced in the ways of women. It puts them at ease and creates trust, lets them know you understand them. And thats how you get second dates, one night stands, and drop panties on a regular basis.
 

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I don't even know my own count, nor do I wish to sit down and figure it out. I stopped counting because it was pointless. I had proven to myself that I can go out and get women, and that's all I needed.

My GF also doesn't want to know my count. She knows it's high and doesn't want to think about it.
 

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Yea baby, I don't really count. But For the past twenty years I've had a new women on weekends. There are 52 weeks in a year, so that makes it approximately 100 women per year. Maybe 2000, maybe more. How about you?
 

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I don't even know my own count, nor do I wish to sit down and figure it out. I stopped counting because it was pointless. I had proven to myself that I can go out and get women, and that's all I needed.

My GF also doesn't want to know my count. She knows it's high and doesn't want to think about it.
Same here. There's no point for me in keeping track and my woman simply knows and likes that I attract women and have slept with many.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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I don't even know my own count, nor do I wish to sit down and figure it out. I stopped counting because it was pointless. I had proven to myself that I can go out and get women, and that's all I needed.

My GF also doesn't want to know my count. She knows it's high and doesn't want to think about it.
One of the best replies possible especially given the context of this forum. I love this attitude.
 

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I've never met a woman that didn't appreciate the benefits of a man experienced in the ways of women. It puts them at ease and creates trust, lets them know you understand them. And thats how you get second dates, one night stands, and drop panties on a regular basis.
True. She could also look at it as "oh, he's been with alot of women and is a playboy, he's not serious."

It's a loaded question. If you say high, you are a player. If you say low, you are a loser.

In any event, I think it depends what the man's goal is. If he wants a LTR and marriage, he could say "I've a had few girlfriends, the longest one was 5 years." IF he wants to fu-- the girl, he says what Duke said above.

Have to know your audience.
 

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True. She could also look at it as "oh, he's been with alot of women and is a playboy, he's not serious."

It's a loaded question. If you say high, you are a player. If you say low, you are a loser.

In any event, I think it depends what the man's goal is. If he wants a LTR and marriage, he could say "I've a had few girlfriends, the longest one was 5 years." IF he wants to fu-- the girl, he says what Duke said above.

Have to know your audience.
I've been accused of being a player a few times back in my prime. I was certainly guilty, but it didn't stop any of my accusers from persuing me.

The threat of what you are capable of drives a lot of attraction in women. Even in long term relationships they need reminded from time to time.

They all want a wanted man.
 

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LOL that is an elaborated bull$hit that eventually she will realize, do you think women are that stupid to not differentiate between a guy with exp and with one without it?


Ohhhh so fvcking scaryyyyyy, what is she gonna do, eat me, leave me? beat me? Fvcking pathetic


Women ask those questions, they are curious.


Exaclty, not like @BPH still doing math like high school, pathetic.


You are fvcking delusional old guy, who still thinks that's what women want. You still haven't figure out $hit and still with the same mindset brother.
Serious question: Are you bipolar?

The massive shifts from you being a decent person to absolutely trashing everybody around you happen at such a whiplash-inducing rate that I'd have a hard time attributing it to roid rage.

EDIT: To answer @jhonny9546 , since I've been tagged by this serial tantrum-thrower, I've always been honest when asked. I won't spit out an exact number, but I recently had the girl I slept with from Philly ask me, and I just answered that it was "over 100".

Didn't bother her in the slightest. She was surprised, but expected it to be high, given how I look, my age, and how I carry myself. I used to spend a lot of time worrying about how to answer that question when exes wanted to know. Honesty has always worked out the best, and none of them ever had a problem with it.
 

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LOL that is an elaborated bull$hit that eventually she will realize, do you think women are that stupid to not differentiate between a guy with exp and with one without it?
the problem is that you think the issue with the brain of a guy

Women will think like, if I like / slept with him for sure there were other women before me that did the same and potentially could be other ones in the future

Woman brain is different than the man brain
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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LOL that is an elaborated bull$hit that eventually she will realize, do you think women are that stupid to not differentiate between a guy with exp and with one without it?


Ohhhh so fvcking scaryyyyyy, what is she gonna do, eat me, leave me? beat me? Fvcking pathetic


Women ask those questions, they are curious.


Exaclty, not like @BPH still doing math like high school, pathetic.


You are fvcking delusional old guy, who still thinks that's what women want. You still haven't figure out $hit and still with the same mindset brother.
Aversion and curiosity
 

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That will be peak curiosity for her, but better be with those 100 for real and you better be good in bed cause you are gonna be tested. And she will be doing her best, or not, or she will be like "uggghh disgusting" but in the end who gives a fvck what she thinks.
I disagree with you here again

Girls know very well that you can be a total sl8t and still not be good in bed. Look at most women, no matter their body count the vast majority of them still suck in bed

sex skills usually develop in relationships, in perfect trust sand safety

most first time sex usually s8cks because usually both partners are very anxious about the whole thing. Sex becomes better after doing it 2-3 times at least on different occasions

They will project the same thing on guys

What I said about women projecting their attractiveness to other women, using as a proxy your body count, still stands

the issue is that you put yourself in the shoes of a woman with the brain of a guy

It is irrelevant if @BPH actually slept with over 100 women or not for a woman, she will project on him whatever the woman wants :)

if you have a beef with @BPH then by all means have it, but do not use bs messages because some other dudes who knows when might read this thread and it will be full of not the best content

let’s keep quality content out of personal beefs
 

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If a woman asked you your body count or how many times you've slept with, would you reveal it?

In my case, to her question, I replied, "It doesn't matter."

She responded, "I need to know, otherwise we can end this."
So I replied, "I like consistent people, so if you really want to ask me, just know that you won't go back on your word, and we can end this. I won't tell you."
Do you know how that ended? She never asked me again.

We dated for quite a while before breaking up.
Yes, I’ve answered. I also told my wife.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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