"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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I think I screwed up....what to do next?

Nissanguy

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Well I've been on and off involved with this girl for a month or so now. Stuff started crappy but picked up last week coming to it's peak where I spent the night at her house and slept in her bed w/ her. I've been trying to make plans w/ her ever since last Sat. and somthing always gets in the way, etheir I cant get in touch w/ her bec. her cell is a POS or "somthing" comes up. Now I would say she is just blowing me of, but there seems to be a lot of interest(In her top 4 friends myspace, leaves away mess. wishing me a good day/leaving ones that say "amazing night" after I slept over, tells me Im the perfect guy for her, texting a lot, IM's me 1st most times, lots of myspace mess. etc.) Last night I tried to set-up plans again, she said she couldnt do anything solid(plan wise) as she was going out w/ her fam. and didnt know when she would be back and just told me to call her which hardly ever works. I got on her pretty hard about leaving stuff up in the air, and just kind of made myself look desparate I think.
I know I screwed up w/ the whole making plans thing, I should have just backed off, but does it sound like it's even worth fixing?. Do you think this girl is truely interested, or shes just lying.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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You should have banged her when you slept in her bed. A girl that was very into me gave me the OK to sleep in the same bed as her as well, yet I was too AFC to know that she wanted to fukk. A week or 2 later she lost interest. Hopefully she'll give you another chance!

Offering you to sleep with her= the green light to GO!
 

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Sounds like you're very young... have you even started college or university yet?

The girl you are dealing with is your typical post-pubescent flake. You can't really gauge what they are thinking because they don't even know what they're thinking.

Essentially, she's yanking your chain, and a real man does not allow that. So just cut off all contact and go find some more plates to spin.

And next time be a man and make a move.
 

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Im 21, lol. This girl already told me on many occasions that she wants to wait for sex, keep in mind this was at her house, not mine. Her whole fam. was home, I'm just about pos. that she would not have been into it and then I would have had to deal w/ her Dad=not fun!. I've dealt w/ the type girls that just want to fvck, I'm almost pos. shes not one of them, she says she wants a LTR and the "Real Deal". Do you guys really think I f'ed up by not trying to screw her?
 

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dude men need to realize that women don't think like men. When we say we don't want to do something we mean it. When a chick says she doesn't want to do something it's because in her mind she is trying to use ratonality and logic. Well i do want to fuuck this guy but if i come on to strong i'll be a slut, so i'll simply say i don't want to **** BUT we are sleeping in the same bed together so maybe he will make the first move and if we fuuck i won't feel like an easy slut.

So she tells you she doens't want to fuuck and gets you thinking she really doesn't when clearly her words were saying one thing but her actions were saying another. If a chick invites you into her bedroom she wants you to be the man AND fuuck HER.

Sure she said she doesn't want to fuuck but not many chicks will initiate the first move. We as men have to initiae everything. The first approach, the first kiss and the first fuuck. Women you could say have a anti-slut thing in their brain and unless a man is a man the anti slut modualtor stays on. However if you get a man who knows what he wants the more she gets turned that anti slut modulator slowly eases from red light to Green light which is fuuck me.

You were in her bed and remember actions speak louder then words. When a chick mentions she doesn't want to fuuck assume the opposite but be cautious. When a chick says she doesn't want to fuuck and takes you in her bed, you better believe i'm going to escalate fuucking.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Alphachuk1621 said:
dude men need to realize that women don't think like men. When we say we don't want to do something we mean it. When a chick says she doesn't want to do something it's because in her mind she is trying to use ratonality and logic. Well i do want to fuuck this guy but if i come on to strong i'll be a slut, so i'll simply say i don't want to **** BUT we are sleeping in the same bed together so maybe he will make the first move and if we fuuck i won't feel like an easy slut.
Well said. If a girl invites me to come to the pool, I'm definately gonna depth test it to see how deep the water is. I'm either wading or diving. Eitherway at least the water warms up after a while of sitting in it.

Get my drift?
 

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Alphachuk1621 said:
dude men need to realize that women don't think like men. When we say we don't want to do something we mean it. When a chick says she doesn't want to do something it's because in her mind she is trying to use ratonality and logic. Well i do want to fuuck this guy but if i come on to strong i'll be a slut, so i'll simply say i don't want to **** BUT we are sleeping in the same bed together so maybe he will make the first move and if we fuuck i won't feel like an easy slut.

So she tells you she doens't want to fuuck and gets you thinking she really doesn't when clearly her words were saying one thing but her actions were saying another. If a chick invites you into her bedroom she wants you to be the man AND fuuck HER.

Sure she said she doesn't want to fuuck but not many chicks will initiate the first move. We as men have to initiae everything. The first approach, the first kiss and the first fuuck. Women you could say have a anti-slut thing in their brain and unless a man is a man the anti slut modualtor stays on. However if you get a man who knows what he wants the more she gets turned that anti slut modulator slowly eases from red light to Green light which is fuuck me.

You were in her bed and remember actions speak louder then words. When a chick mentions she doesn't want to fuuck assume the opposite but be cautious. When a chick says she doesn't want to fuuck and takes you in her bed, you better believe i'm going to escalate fuucking.
Okay then, so I just f'ed up huh? Damn me, I would have prob. tried it if I was in my own house, but I just envisioned her Dad beating the **** out of me if I pulled anything. Also she has a mental disorder, GAD and realy bad panic attacks, so idk she might have flipped if I tried anything. I should have though anyways.
 

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Nissanguy said:
Okay then, so I just f'ed up huh? Damn me, I would have prob. tried it if I was in my own house, but I just envisioned her Dad beating the **** out of me if I pulled anything.
It's alright bud we all have had our own fuuck up's but it's what we learn from them that makes us better men. Chalk it up as a lesson learned and move on. Here's a rule of thumb i live by "It's always better to make a move and risk get rejected as opposed to not making a move an thinking later down the line if you fuucked up". In my younger years when i was lost in the "game" i had to many oppurtunies thrown my way that i did act apon. Knowing my alpha status now i think about it and laugh about what i should have done. As opposed to letting it weigh me down i simply laugh about the past and know that in the future i won't allow those opportunities to be wasted.
 

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Alphamale1821 said:
It's alright bud we all have had our own fuuck up's but it's what we learn from them that makes us better men. Chalk it up as a lesson learned and move on. Here's a rule of thumb i live by "It's always better to make a move and risk get rejected as opposed to not making a move an thinking later down the line if you fuucked up". In my younger years when i was lost in the "game" i had to many oppurtunies thrown my way that i did act apon. Knowing my alpha status now i think about it and laugh about what i should have done. As opposed to letting it weigh me down i simply laugh about the past and know that in the future i won't allow those opportunities to be wasted.
Yeah deff. thanks for the advice. Just pisses me off that I didnt act, she is pretty hot too. Your right might as well try, you miss 100% of the shots you dont take.
 

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Talked to her tonight, all her doing. She made a sexual comment at me online and then said she would call/text. tomm., 1st time she ever offered to do this on her own. Prob. a bunch of BS, but if she gets in touch w/ me should I try to set-up plans again, or wait for her to ask?. Just seeing if maybe I can make it go down this time, lol.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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