"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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i think i screwed this up

newbeginning

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went on date with girl. have been talking to her for a bout two weeks. chemistry is ok, not great. i know she likes me. but at the end of the date i asked her where we stand. i know i shouldve just grabbed her hands, pull her close and drench them voluptuous lips.

i've given her the ball and its gonna be hard to get back. any help is appreciated.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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yes yes... you ****ed up. But don't think for a second that lost anything, or u're done. Know what you want and go for it.
 

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In my opinion, though I'm far from being any kind of jedi "master" at this or anything, you shouldn't have asked her where you two stand. Forget about that. You two stand on your feet on the ground, and that's it. In my opinion asking that gives her the feeling she's in charge now. Just pull a way a little , give her some space this week, and be real cool about it next time you see her. Try a little "push-pull" if you guys get intimate. That's the way I would go w/it at least. Good luck.

~DinoC
 

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when you ask "where do we stand' that tells her that YOU don't know where YOU stand.

if you are going to go down that road its better to say something like "I'm really starting to feel quite commited to this relationship. what about you?"

then she thinks " he knows what he wants, and now he wants to know what i want. oh man, i better figure out what i want, cuz he's going to get pissed if i give him some wishy washy answer. I could lose this guy if i don't step up to the plate."

you ask "where do we stand" she thinks "great, this guy is totally dependent on me. I've got all the time in the world to figure out whether i really want more from this relationship. I'll let him know when im good and ready"

you know what i'd do at this point. I'd tell say to her "listen, in past relationships i've done the whole - where do we stand thing before really knowing where i stand. So I think we should probably take it easy, maybe see other people, and see where we stand in a few months. I'm trying to be more independent, and I almost fell into the trap of giving a part of my independence away."

this will make her think "sh*t, what happened. he was afc one day, now he's got balls and is saying he can live without me."

it also lets her know that when you screw up, it may give her the upper hand in the short term, but that you've got the balls to fix your mistakes. that way if things continue with you two, she'll know that even when the opportunity presents itself to take advantage of you, she shouldn't, because it will come back to haunt her.

J
 

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yeah, you pretty much F'ed this one up...lol, but it's okay, we've all been there.

Just remember, you always ASSUME she likes you... if she didn't like you, she is a dumbass for being on a date with you.

That's like wondering if a girl wants to **** you, and she is over your house at 2 in the morning.... She had better, or she is going to feel pretty insulted..
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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thanks for the replies, how would you guys fix this. im thinking about getting off her for a week or so like someone said above, and just act like i dont care. The "i enjoy your company but i can also live without it" attitude sort of speak.
 

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Talk to other women, and ignore her...


The beauty in that is, that 9 out of 10 times, you will somehow, someway, run into her again, and it's like you basically get to start over.

And this time, you will be better prepared, and with other women on the side so you don't have too much at stake.
 
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