I need feedback/answers to my field report from last night!!

[tomwesten27]

Last night I went to my local bar that is closing up this week. It was packed with groups of hot women. I made my normal approaches which usually always end with success of a number close or 2, sometimes more. Last night though for some reason was just a really bad unsuccessful night. Its actually bothering me why I couldn't number close. Maybe you guys can explain to me what went wrong?

Attempt 1
First I noticed a group of 5 hot girls and my roommate is a bit shy so I approached the group using the "hey girls, listen my roommate is a bit shy and he is into you (points to girl) so I'm trying to play matchmaker." None of the girls said a word, all looked sorta away or onto there phones, and one girl spoke up and said "I have boyfriend it won't work." I realized not one of them was being friendly so I just bounced.

Attempt 2
I started talking to a second hot girl that was standing next to the bar and was making fun of a guy that was so drunk he was trying to hit on her but couldn't put a sentence together. We seemed to hit it off and we were laughing back and forth and when I went to number close, she called my phone but never added me as a contact.

Problem 1 - I can't remember her name, but I have her number..what to do?
Problem 2 - She later saw me in a diner after the bar with another group of girls. Is that a problem?

Attempt 3
When last call came up I found another group of 4 girls, 3/4 being hot and just started random convos. One which I was really into was like come with us to the diner! So I jumped in the car with the 4 girls. The 10 minute ride to the diner these girls were flirting with me hardcore!! The driver was saying how cute I was, the one next to me saying how sexy my tats are, I just went with it, flirted back, played it smooth.

We ate in the diner, the one girl I was into we were going back and forth, had more drinks, the girls drove me to my place and I don't know why the fvk I didn't number close but there was so much going on in the car I just said "thats for the lift girls!" and they all said "bye! nice meeting you! stay sexy!" lol...so I know I failed on that one.

Conclusion

I usually am pretty good with approaching groups but I think I am saying the wrong openers...could someone help me with out with correcting how I can do the approach the right way?

Also the girl that saw me at the diner with the other girls, its the only number I got. I can't remember her name. If I hit her up what should I say???

Any feedback, guidance, advice, answers to my last 2 questions would be greatly appreciated, thank you!

 

[rhythmic]

Attempt 1:

"Don't worry about the woman who aren't into you, worry about the ones who are" - some smart guy

There are so many women, looking for so many different things (both in a night out and in a guy) that this will happen sometimes.

Attempt 2:
Sounds promising-ish, that she called your phone. Regarding her name, tell her you had a crazy night afterwards, and forgot. Maybe nickname her in the meantime (something personal from what you remember, that will make her think and feel special.

Regarding her seeing you with another group of girls, should be fine (and "add value", if some people are to be believed). If she accuses you of being some kind of player, just say they were autograph hunting (lol) or say they were just some friends from a while back.

Attempt 3: Needed more focus. Sounds like you were doing fine but IMO, you need to either:

1. roll the dice, pick one and close, or
2. see them as valuable contacts, friend them all right off the bat, and just have them as wingwomen. You can always pull a woman out of the friend-zone later...

Conclusion: I very rarely open on women outside of situational openers. For example, if I see some poor fella strike out with a woman really badly, I'll usually go up right after and say something like "don't worry, he'll get over it" and then you have your opener. It's conversational, non-committal, and throws her off a little because you aren't coming on to her.

 

[TheGambino]

I dont think your first opener about the 'shy' guy was good, you should put the main focus on yourself, not introduce your friend, you could do that later on in the convo. You should start off with a positive opener or raise some curiousity, ill give you a example later on.

Attempt 2 problem 2 is actually pretty good since the girl saw you hanging out with other girls it kinda gives her proof that girls like you in general, more likely that she will chase you.

I personally like the opener:
'Hey you dont seem like your from around here' or 'Hey you girls don't look like youre from around here'. The best thing about this opener is that you always get a response because you raise curiousity they want to know why their so different or special (in their minds). so they ask oh why

then you could go for a funny ****y answer or just say coz of your style or anything, from there you could build rapport and number close.

And uhmm when you were in the car with the girls, good job but why didnt you jump in the backseat between two girls and had some fun while they were driving to your place. Kino, make jokes, tell them to show their tatts or belly buttons (while you kino), create upportunities to touch them and maybe even kiss.

And you def had to invite them over for some drinks, if they said no sory you def had to number close but ok didn't happen next time you will do it!

keep up the good work bro, post more rapports, you'll learn things that work and dont work after every night out and maybe land in some good adventures soon

 

[Mike32ct]

Don't be afraid to call the chick you number closed. Most girls don't pick up the first time from a new number, so her voicemail will likely give away her name...

"Hi this is Amy. Leave a message."

Do not ask her name again. That will kill your chances. Worst-case, on the date, play the "who has the uglier driver's license photo" game in order to see her name.

 

[tomwesten27]

Field Report Day 2

I decided to go out again last night because the bartenders I know were working at the local bar. Since it was Monday they had the hockey game on Kings VS Rangers and the bar was pretty busy.

2 Cute girls 22 & 25 sitting by themselves

I walked over and my opener was "Hey girls I wanted to come over and say hi, did you catch the end of the Kings game?" Immediately both girls perked up and both started chatting away. I would ask the blonde a question, then the brunette a question, basically back/forth for a good 20 minutes.

The topic of getting together locally came up so I said "Well let me get one of your numbers and we can get together." The brunette who I was more into added herself on my phone then texted herself my name. Immediately after the blonde said "Take my number too!" So she did the same exact thing.

I decided to be the one to end the convo and I said "Girls it was a pleasure speaking with you, but I am going to get back to my friends, lets get together this week." Both agreed.

1 hour later

Brunette texts me saying "It was really nice meeting you!"

About 20 minutes after that the Blonde texts me "It was great meeting you!"

Conclusion

What do you guys think? How did I do? Honestly they both were very attractive and outgoing girls. Both had great little bodies. I am really into the brunette though.

Should I aim for the brunette when asking her out this week? Do I take both out??