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I have Great luck with attractive women 30+ or women between 25-30 who are single moms

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but terrible luck asking out attractive girls my age or a little younger (say 22-30) who don't have kids. Ideally I want somebody 23-27


What would you guys attribute this to?? I am a pretty good looking dude, I'm 28 - I look about 30-35 (so a little older but not terrible), in shape, dress super trendy, decent personality, make great money. I don't think I lack anything but every time I try to ask out girls my age or a little younger who don't have kids, I have terrible success. On the flipside, women over 30 and single moms just go crazy for me


Am I just not being confident enough with the women I want? Is it normal for younger girls with no baggage to be a million times harder to woo?
 
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Yes it's normal. Im not your age but even for me it's easier to score 25+ than 18-25 because they have higher standards.

If you dig deeper though, its not only your appearance but slso your mindset.

Also, expand your circles. Maybe you are not exposing your self to the right circles of ladies.
 

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Yes it's normal. Im not your age but even for me it's easier to score 25+ than 18-25 because they have higher standards.

If you dig deeper though, its not only your appearance but slso your mindset.

Also, expand your circles. Maybe you are not exposing your self to the right circles of ladies.
I'm not looking for 18-22. I really want mid to late 20s. 25 or 26 would be perfect

I don't understand why it has been so hard for me to meet someone my age with no kids. I have no problem with women my age if they are single moms coincidentally
 

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I'm not looking for 18-22. I really want mid to late 20s. 25 or 26 would be perfect

I don't understand why it has been so hard for me to meet someone my age with no kids. I have no problem with women my age if they are single moms coincidentally
Girls at that age are looking for bad boys and hookups . Do you fit thst profile?

Do you really ask yourself why single moms are so easy to get for men like you? They are gold diggers, simple as that. Avoid them like the plague.
 

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Girls at that age are looking for bad boys and hookups . Do you fit thst profile?

the average age of marriage for women in my state is 26. What you saying applies for 15-21 year olds. I don't see how it applies for 24-26 year olds
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

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the average age of marriage for women in my state is 26. What you saying applies for 15-21 year olds. I don't see how it applies for 24-26 year olds
Tbh it kinda applies to most younger women. Experienced women will look for an good looking joe with some $$$.

That brings me to the other question, how is your game? Also, you said you look older. Most girls in that age don't wanna have sex with their dad. Looking 30osh is fine but 35 is kinda old for this age group.
 

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Too much thought on too little to think about.

1) Single moms of any kind will throw themselves at any guy with the slightest bit of anything going for him. Just avoid them entirely. My life is completely in check and I get all sorts of crap at work from the unhappily married/single mom crowd...just don't go there and run.
2) The 21-24 and 25-28 crowds aren't hard at all to work with. You just have to be really damned interesting and put together both socially and physically. I'm turning 32 shortly and still do well with this age group above all else because of my hobbies and the fact that I look like I'm in my mid-late 20s. I literally identify best with this group in terms of social trends, interests, and pop culture...if you're legit youthful, then you're basically one of them but just further along in life.
3) It also depends on your life and where you frequently visit...I live in small city overrun by WVU, so obviously I'm going to be mixing with students/grad students every time I leave the house. I'm viewed as what they want to be and what they want to have when they're done with all of their schooling, so it works for me. If you don't have a lot of your target age group around you, then you not surprisingly will have a hard time getting anywhere with said age group.
4) Just get out and live life, stop over thinking and just go do some stuff and see where it takes you.
 
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I really want mid to late 20s. 25 or 26 would be perfect

I don't understand why it has been so hard for me to meet someone my age with no kids. I have no problem with women my age if they are single moms coincidentally
You are not going to find 25 - 28 single, available, educated, good looking girl wanting a long term relationship. Why should she commit to you, or any man, when the world is her oyster?
 

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You are not going to find 25 - 28 single, available, educated, good looking girl wanting a long term relationship. Why should she commit to you, or any man, when the world is her oyster?
all those women get married at that age. What are you talking about?
 

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4) Just get out and live life, stop over thinking and just go do some stuff and see where it takes you.

I do this already

the problem is when I meet single young women without kids, they always fukking reject me. It's so frustrating

I am good looking, very successful and very outgoing. Why wouldn't a cute 25 year old want to go out with me?
 

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I do this already

the problem is when I meet single young women without kids, they always fukking reject me. It's so frustrating

I am good looking, very successful and very outgoing. Why wouldn't a cute 25 year old want to go out with me?
Can you define "very successful?"
 
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I made 160K last year, have my own house that I bought at 24 and drive a $70,000 Lexus

Not saying that should be everything but I'm good at much everything across the board
And do girls hit on you because of this? I'm sure this helps your game a lot, right?
 

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And do girls hit on you because of this? I'm sure this helps your game a lot, right?
Women hit on me all the time. The problem is it's always single moms or women over 30. Sometimes it's a younger girl without kids but then it's always a trashy skank or an overweight one

I just want somebody equivalent to myself - I'm intelligent, classy, educated, in great shape, dress super nice, above average looking, outgoing, no baggage, etc...
 
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Women hit on me all the time. The problem is it's always single moms or women over 30. Sometimes it's a younger girl without kids but then it's always a trashy skank or an overweight one

I just want somebody equivalent to myself - I'm intelligent, classy, educated, in great shape, dress super nice, above average looking, outgoing, no baggage, etc...
What do you do for a living? What part of the country do you live in?
 

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i'm in sales

I live near Chicago - about 45 minutes away
I think your problem is that you think that because of the $ you'll dig good quality chicks. Life is not a fifty cent music video mate, that's not how it works.

I also get that feeling that you are a bit desperate, stop chasing girls.

Do you have life beyond work? Do you travel? Dance? Do you have activities that can expose you to p*ssy?
 
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I think your problem is that you think that because of the $ you'll dig good quality chicks. Life is not a fifty cent music video mate, that's not how it works.

I also get that feeling that you are a bit desperate, stop chasing girls.

Do you have life beyond work? Do you travel? Dance? Do you have activities that can expose you to p*ssy?
So you think that they should like poor guys instead?

Btw, you just told him to forget about females, but then to get hobbies that puts him around females.
 

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I think your problem is that you think that because of the $ you'll dig good quality chicks. Life is not a fifty cent music video mate, that's not how it works.

I also get that feeling that you are a bit desperate, stop chasing girls.

Do you have life beyond work? Do you travel? Dance? Do you have activities that can expose you to p*ssy?

yes my lifestyle is fantastic. I travel all the time, go to concerts, sports events, bars, clubs, etc...

my frustration isn't just the money. I'm good at everything across the board
 

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So you think that they should like poor guys instead?

Btw, you just told him to forget about females, but then to get hobbies that puts him around females.
No, i told him not to chase them, but rather interact with them, there is a difference.
yes my lifestyle is fantastic. I travel all the time, go to concerts, sports events, bars, clubs, etc...

my frustration isn't just the money. I'm good at everything across the board
just keep on with your life then... that's what I'd do. Keep building your connections and circles. And keep your frame. eventually you'll find some good quality females.
 
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